Drugs & Alcohol while Pregnant

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    No....you are reaching
     
  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two years ago, Liz Smith, director of nursing at Franciscan Children’s hospital in Brighton, Mass., was headed toward the elevator at work when she saw her: a tiny girl with bright blue eyes and a single soft brown curl swept across her forehead.

    “Who’s this beautiful angel?” Smith asked the nurse who was wheeling the infant down the hall. “Her name is Gisele,” the nurse told her. The infant, a ward of the state, had been at the hospital for five months, but Smith had never seen her before.

    Smith learned that Gisele, then 8 months old, had been born premature at another hospital in July 2016, weighing just under 2 pounds. She had neonatal abstinence syndrome — a result of her birth mother using heroin, cocaine and methadone during pregnancy.

    Social service workers were trying to place her in foster care.

    "Gisele,” Smith told herself all the way home that evening. “Gisele.” It was at that moment, said Smith, that she knew: “I'm going to foster this baby. I'm going to be her mother.”

    The state of Massachusetts took custody of Gisele when she was 3 months old and transferred her to Franciscan Children’s because her lungs needed specialized care, and she had a feeding tube. The baby did not have a single visitor in her five months at the hospital.​

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...ted-her/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c4721274dcc4
     
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  3. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tragic and unfortunately all too common.....people suck. I suppose you have some point beyond pointing this out?
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think this should be legal?
     
  5. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of coursed not....why would you make such a rude assumption? Is it because I support a womans right to her choose?
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you do admit... it's not entirely her body to do with as she pleases.
     
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  7. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup...we have laws in place, but the correlation you are trying to draw is invalid.
     
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  8. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Do you think the woman should have been arrested and prosecuted?
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is also not "entirely" YOUR body to do with as you please....now is it? She does however have the same rights you do...a fetus does not.
     
  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe just a spanking.
     
  11. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You are very good at non-answers.
    You brought up a hypothetical and expect others to answer your questions.
     
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  12. FoxHastings

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    edna kawabata said:
    Do you think the woman should have been arrested and prosecuted?



    I bet you're not even aware of what that comment says about you....(none of it good).
     
  13. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    No, she should not have been arrested and prosecuted.
     
  14. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a crack baby is a terrible tragedy but not anything government should do something about?
     
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  15. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What do you think? How far should the government go?
     
  16. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For what?.....Drugs or fetal endangerment...or both?
     
  17. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll have to hand it to you that you were even able to come up with a reply to that question.
     
  18. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have to point out that you did not. So....what is it, should she be charged and prosecuted?

    And what should she be charged WITH?
     
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    You had no reply except the incredibly stupid , sexist, misogynist, ""Maybe just a spanking."
     
  20. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    What do you think? How far should the government go?
     
  21. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    kasenatsu seems to have become a bit timid now....hmm I wonder why?
     
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    :) Maybe he go spanked :)
     
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  23. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    They should probably be offered cash payments to be sterilized.
     
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