Deportation isn't likely to be necessary. ... and what exactly are you going to redistribute? A dollar is just a promise of future work. After you've kicked out all the folks who are actually producing value and hand those IOUs to folks who are unemployed because they cannot or will not produce valuewhere will your beneficiaries go to cash their free IOUs? After you get rid of the people who give a dollar it's value... it's just an empty promise. The problem in American is that lack of productivity. The guy who says his contribution is doing what he's told, isn't useful anymore. If you can find a way to make the fry guy productive enough to solve his own problems, you don't need tariffs or government seizures. And if you can't, they won't help.
no we do need tariffs and government seizures of the wealth of crony capitalists, and redistribute that wealth to ethical capitalists who invest in making Americans productive. if you think American workers are lazy or inferior to chinese workers, then maybe you are not paying them enough to want to compete and pursue happiness.
Paying someone more, for a job he's already not doing... that hasn't worked so far. The fry guy's excuse for not meeting his current obligations is that he is not capable of producing what the fellow in China is producing. I'm not saying your fry guy is anything. I'm just taking him at his word. There are plenty of people who would love to invest in making America more productive. Many are trying now. They just can't find a use for your fry guy in that puzzle. Obama has been cold calling folks all around this nation for six years, promising funding for anyone who can. Solyndra took him up on it. Capital is not the problem. If you can find a way to get something out of the worker you think is so valuable, step up and do it. No one is stopping you and we'd all benefit if you succeeded.
What people get paid is not the root problem regarding being able to support ourselves. Compensation is what it is due to many factors. Forcing higher labor costs or anything external on business can never be for free. And, you cannot violate the idea of the bell-curve; forever and for always there will be people, no matter the topic, distributed throughout the bell curve...from the lowest to highest degree of whatever the topic might be...like compensation. It is not possible to condense a current wage scale of $7.25/hour to $100/hour to a new scale of $15-$20/hour to $100/hour...all wages must eventually gain by a similar percentage, therefore, once the dust settles there will still be 15% of US workers on the bottom rung of society. And how do you rationalize a person working in San Francisco, in a $10/hour job, even if it was increased to $15-$20/hour, ever being able to afford to live within 50 miles of where they work? The root problem is the cost of living! And the cost of living is usually highest in the higher population areas in which the demands made by those with more means constantly drives up the costs of goods and services to everyone. But, in these areas we still require all of the lower paid jobs to be in place to support society so where do they live, how do they live, how far must they commute, how can they ever get ahead? Based on these comments and many more I could offer, I can't see how arbitrarily increasing a MINIMUM WAGE can ever solve a single problem...
laborers see the wealth disparity, they are not going to be motivated to labor for a crony capitalist who makes millions ordering everyone around while high on cocaine and heroin. i'm sorry but what makes these guys better than the average person who could work their entire lives and never acquire half of the wealth of them? please don't say these crony capitalists are more intelligent than the laborer who is simply asking for a living wage? capital is certainly not the problem, its the entitled capitalists squandering that capital who are the problem. Chipotle exec charged in sweeping cocaine bust http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/06/news/companies/chipotle-executive-cocaine-bust/ Prostitute pleads guilty in heroin overdose death of Google executive Forrest Hayes http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-20/prostitute-jailed-over-google-exec-heroin-death/6482734
They don't have a choice not to work for minimum wage because no one living on welfare assistance in the United States is living in luxury. They're living in poverty because welfare, at it's best, provides a sustenance level of existence.
Like it or not...there are only so many jobs in the USA. In most job descriptions we have more people than jobs. Therefore, competition will exist. In jobs in which we have millions competing, for example entry level, unskilled and lower skilled jobs, this will keep the wages lower. And each person has a limited potential for myriad reasons and this potential can be expanded. IMO we should not arbitrarily and politically burden industry with society's issues regarding welfare and poverty, etc. Whatever the root concerns might be with poverty and/or welfare, this must be solved outside of industry, and in this case, not forcing higher minimum wages. What tangible things can assist people in welfare and/or poverty; Healthcare, housing, transportation, education, etc.? Why doesn't society have a focused effort to provide health care to everyone, to build affordable housing, to design effective and affordable public transit, to better educate our citizenry?? Sure there might be higher tax revenue demands but at least this does not interfere with industry's supply and demand of labor and it's cost. What good does it do to force wages to $15/$20 hour when it costs $3000 for rents and $600K for homes and average car prices are $35K, etc.? Welfare has nothing to do with business and wages! Poverty has nothing to do with business and wages! Welfare and poverty are a societal issue therefore society needs to solve them...
Problem is it's not a simple choice. Those who desire more in life must put forth the personal effort to achieve more of whatever it is they desire. It's 100% their decision! And there are no requirements to always achieve more; most people find a comfortable place somewhere in the middle...
they want to pursue happiness with gainful employment just as their neighbor, many people can't afford education or retraining, or simply don't want it. using lawful government force against their neighbor so that Trump would negotiate trade deals, and bring living wage jobs back for the uneducated and untrained is the best way to luxury.
You expect Trump to sit down and negotiate trade deals, by telling the other nations at the table American's can't afford or simply don't want to be educated or trained to do the work being discussed. To then use the lawful force of our government to require payment anyway. That is not gainful employment. It is robbery. That you believe robbery is the best way to luxury is revealing.
third world nations were inferior because the rich in their countries enslaved their people with minimum wages, and taught their people that working for a living wage was a 'luxury'. the foreigners only recently became civilized because the rich in America robbed Americans of their 'luxury', by outsourcing living wage jobs to get richer as well as prevent wars that threaten their kingdoms. you want to bring the third world to America to make the rich richer, and Trump will make America great again by ending the robbery of the rich with government force.
First world is defined as members and allies of NATO. Second world is defined as members and allies of the soviet block. Third world are nations that are allied with neither. I'm not the one who has a problem with U.S. membership in NATO. That seems to be Donald Trump.
china only recently become the second largest economy because the rich in America gave them all of America's living wage jobs to prevent wars. the chinese were oppressed by minimum wages on farms before the rich in America gave them our jobs. NATO is corporate owned, it sends the military to fight for profits instead of defending its people. America pays the biggest bill for it, but the rich taxpayers don't mind protecting their business interests and investments using the lives of the poor?
The first largest economy. The U.S. is number three. An economy is measured in the value of the things it produces. No one gave American lives to China. Jobs happen when you ask someone to provide what you need and in return for something they may need of you. It's that cooperation which creates value. We asked things of Americans, they declined. Others accepted. Now you suggest that amounts to taking something from the folks who "don't want" to accomplish what we need accomplishing. It doesn't. If Americans want to satisfy the needs of Americans, they are more than welcome to do so. Find a problem, build a solution, offer it to your neighbor and negotiate a price. If he accepts you just created your own job and no one can take that from you. If he declines, you are not offering something he values. Holding a gun to him to require he buy your bag of rocks is not commerce. It's robbery.
it is a patriotic duty of the rich in America to produce here and create living wage jobs here for the people who don't want to be retrained or educated, because it is their country and they are entitled to simple lives as a right. we have a resource rich land, the rich are traitors for making us work for minimum wages in order for food and shelter, while they live in excess with more than they could ever need for an entire lifetime. the rich and the government they control work for the people, the people do not work for them.
If you do not work for me, I do not owe you a wage. Also, "the rich" do not work for you. People have no obligation to make their uneducated and untrained neighbors useful, regardless of their own bank balance. Assuming it is even possible to make those who "don't want" to be trained or educated useful. Children demand others raise them to be useful contributors. Adults are not entitled to the same.
the rich do owe us a living wage for being able to live in luxury on our land with more money than they could ever need, while we live in poverty on minimum wage or welfare. that is our wealth that they enjoy at our expense, and the people will have it returned to them lawfully through government force.
Those dollars in the bank, they are IOUs given to represent value put into the economy. You want to take those IOUs back that you traded for iPhones or Big Macs or other solutions you took out of the economy. And in return you expect to give only permission for rich people to live in a country they own as much as you do. ... and you wonder why our economy is shrinking? Giving someone permission to live contributes nothing to our economy. You provided nothing but letting the rich man be a citizen of his own countrysomething that was provided to you as well. In net you gave nothing. In measurable value, you gave nothing. You are owed nothing in return.
there are ditch diggers and fry cooks who have done more for their country living on minimum wage than the rich, who ruined the economy due to greed. maybe its envy from the poor, but the rich discourage people from wanting to be productive when so few earn so much and do so little. the least the rich could do is provide a living wage to the fry cook, but his/her ego and entitlement mentality won't allow for it.. the rich man or woman has not earned their keep like everyone else, therefore his/her wealth must be confiscated with lawful government force by the people who are its rightful heirs, and be redistributed back to them. they can then rebuild the country that is there inheritance from good people who actually worked and sacrificed for it.
