Early winter weather puts U.S. safe-haven corn planting in doubt

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  1. Mac-7

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    If farmers grow less soybeans and more of something else then farmers still make money while china has less food

    Thats a win-win
     
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    Liberals cannot control the climate

    But they can have loads of fun trying
     
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    No that's the point. They don't have less food. They have other sources to fill their needs. Quite aggressive sources vying to secure such a GIGANTIC soy bean market. Bigly winning alright.
     
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    Science isn't determined by the political interest, fraud is in this case. Climate 'science' is nothing more than a money grab and attempt to redistribute wealth, it has nothing to do with science...
     
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    I must admit, I know virtually nothing about farming. Do we have as the goal the lack of food in China?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I posted the best all time post due to it being Dr. Richard Lindzen explaining all of this. It is amazing how easily some people are completely fooled into thinking they control climate and are able to make modifications to climate.

    This the one video everybody needs to watch. So I present it again.

     
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    Yeah, it's almost like Science is system that always seeks to disprove old theories using newly discovered information that helps update what we new before.
     
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    Remember laughing at the English and their Mini Coopers? Who the hell wants to drive in a car hardly larger than a toy car? But it is coming. Democrats are bringing us to our knees and it won't take a lot longer and the large comfortable car with the huge trunk will be a relic. I have long used my car for more than passengers. Say i want to camp out. I still enjoy the tent. Something about being next to nature still appeals to me. Waking up to making a campfire and fixing breakfast among the beauty of nature still appeals to me. But my car can carry all of my camping gear. i am limited to 2 passengers and in the past those were 2 of my kids. We would find great camping places where we could go fishing or hiking,. Try that with a Mini Cooper size car.

    Look what we have. We have styling. We have a super fast car. We can travel close to 400 miles on one tank of fuel. We do it in comfort.
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    It is not even the largest car. But it is no Mini Cooper.

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    Making a point is art, some science and logic, personal knowledge of said poster and of course intangibles.

    Science really is not on a mission. Some scientists are persualing goals. Some scientists have a mission. Take Dr. Richard Lindzen who among the world climate scientists is rated number 1 in his field. As a retired professor, he travels extensively explaining the meaning of the climate alarming crowd.

    Think of other science and recall if any of them are on a mission to educate as he is.

    In this thread i have posted a video where if you will only watch it, you will learn why you need not be alarmed. Denial is not part of the video. Information is handed over to you.

    Why you would say I am unaware of the science truly puzzles me a lot more than you may think it would.

    As to the Islands called Hawaii, definitely I know they came there because of Volcanic activity. Not all of the islands are still active. Hawaii and Maui are the two remaining active volcanoes. Hawaii especially is growing Hawaii. But not all of Hawaii is active. The region of the South is the active area. I have been to those volcanoes. They are fascinating, aren't they?

    Most do not know this but from base to peak, Mauna Loa is higher than Everest is. Most of the mountain is beneath the surface of the Pacific Ocean.

    It was amazing the heat one feels next to the molten lava. Volcanos do add to the heat energy of the atmosphere too.
     
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    We saw communism fail, we know forced redistribution of wealth always fails, ergo the climate science hoax is doomed to fail as well, it just hasn't destroyed millions and millions of lives yet...
     
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    Climate is not supposed to be anything. It is what it is. But, if the goal is to optimize GDP growth and the carrying capacity for humans then the best climate is one that doesn't change.

    Neither I nor scientists think we can control the climate. But, we can influence it.

    If you don't think CO2 (whether it is natural or anthroprogenic) can influence the climate then maybe you can explain why the troposphere and hydrosphere is warming while the stratosphere cools?
     
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    If it is what it is, then stop whining about it. We cannot alter or control it, and warmer is better in any case. That you think we mere mortals can stop the change tells me more than enough. We cannot, your arrogance is almost as galling as your ignorance...
     
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    You are right. Global warming is the biggest wealth redistribution scheme in human history. Our behaviors are redistributing (or should I stealing) it by taking it from future generations to fund the current generation and we are harming the environment in the process and forcing our children to deal with it.

    Also, do you honestly think molecular physics and quantum mechanics are fraud?
     
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    Is it fair of me to guess you never studied Chemistry?
     
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    We can't control the climate, but we can reduce our influence.

    Since I'm so ignorant maybe you can tell us what is causing the troposphere and hydrosphere to warm while the stratosphere cools?
     
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    There goes your arrogance again. Somehow you already know future generations are going to be too stupid to fend for themselves and you have to save them now. You folks are pretty sad. Go back to your doomsday cult and leave the future generations alone, they'll be just fine, or they'll figure it out as they need to.

    What does molecular physics or quantum mechanics have to do with carbon taxes? That's the 'solution' you folks offer, so perhaps the problem is your cult, not the rest of us...
     
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    So you find it morally acceptable to harm the environment and make your children clean up the mess?

    It's pretty arrogant to pump billions of tons of CO2 into the air without so much as environmental impact study and be apathetic about it. But, it's a whole new level arrogance to actually see the environmental impact study and the consequences that will be result from this behavior and then say "meh...let's just let future generations pay to clean up our mess".

    To deny that CO2 puts a positive radiative forcing on the planet requires the wholesale denial of the molecular physics and quantum mechanics plus pretty much the entirety of science.

    There are other solutions that have been proposed to address the problem. Do you have another idea that you think might work better?
     
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    No its not. can you guess what that question really is?
     
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    Lol the US has been redistributing income since the 30s? 40s? And your still going strong.

    I don't think it works the way you do ...
     
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    In several moments of this video, this is precisely what I ACTUALLY agree with.

     
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    It is a question.

    Watch this Video for my views on this summarized quite accurately.

     
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    There is a better term i believe.

    Theft. Taking from Group A to hand to Group B.

    Democrats ala FDR started to use the same model that Hitler used. Hitler used it and got some stunning results. But he focused a lot on military. Most Americans are ignorant of this but prior to Eisenhower great highways, Hitler engaged in his version of great highways. Actually in ways he helped our later invasion forces perform as they did.

    But today look at our version of great highways. What is the driving speed? Compared to Germany we drive very slow. Germany uses it's great highways to actually move traffic at very high speeds.

    FDR went to a distribution system. So had Hitler. Hitler paid for vacations for his people. Most of the news we read here in the USA leaves a lot of that out so the public only focuses on the evil done by Hitler. True he was evil. But even evil men like their own country.
     
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    Too little rain is drought.

    The right amount of rain is a blessing.

    Too much rain and you can't work the fields, most notably in spring.

    Heavy winter precipitation can seriously delay spring planting.

    Been that way for thousands of years, and more so since steam, gasoline, and diesel powered agricultural machinery was invented.

    Once you get north of Shawnee National Forest the Southern Illinois farmers like to plant corn on tax day -- they love to razz the hell out of each other about how hopeless the taxes are when they're in town. I hope they can this year, too, that is, plant on tax day and get on with the razzin'. And pay less taxes.

    Ain't no global warming having anything to do with this.

    Tax day doesn't have to do with this either. It's just the best target day to plant if you don't want sprouts to freeze when they come up. That is, if you can get machinery in the fields.
     
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    You seem to totally discount water in the atmosphere as a cause. Why is that? it is always carbon dioxide this or that. But you ignore water and Methane too.
     
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    I know.
     
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