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  1. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

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    Todays news

    Two sons of Mubarak are charged with stock market manipulation and fraud and corruption on sale of Egyptian bank. They will now face more charges and another trial.

    Mussa is made honorary president by Al Wafd Party
    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...ypts-Wafd-make-Moussa-honorary-president.aspx

    Verdict on Mubarak his sons and Habib Al Adley due on Saturday. This is the day all Egyptians have been waiting for, Charges include corruption, killing of protesters, illicit gains etc etc etc.

    Revolutionaries, opposition to the two in run offs are now formulating document to present on assurances to public and who to vote for with most from what I can see voting for Morsi against felool and another military leader for Egypt.

    Part of the document:
    http://anarabcitizen.blogspot.com/2012/05/egypts-liberals-draft-12-point-charter.html

    Today is the end of Emergency law in Egypt. Shafik if elected will for sure reinstate it.

    This is how Egyptian voted for the candidates as groups:

    8.9M voted for Sabbahy & Abelfetouh (Nasser/Centre/Rev)
    8.1M voted for Shafiq and Mousa (experience/readiness)
    6.0M voted for Morsi & Alaowa (islamists-right)
    0.2M voted for K. Ali, Elhariry, & Elbastawisy (Revolution)

    What does this mean:

    Ali/Elhariry/Elbastawsy. They have no weight.

    Sabbahy & Abufetough they got the message LATE and now they are United in no return of felool Shafik.

    Mousa supporters (2.6M) will go to Shafiq, no question. Felool + Felool = Felool

    Mousri will move to the centre to try to get Abuelfetouh supporters (4M) to vote for him.

    Sabbahy supporters (4.8M) are stuck. They but they all want Shafiq out.


    I can see Morsi winning election if there is no vote rigging.

    Morsi has to resign from MB.

    Morsi to get votes has to sign revolutionary charter stating agreed conditions and I think he will do this. he already agreed to a few of them before they made it anyway.

    If Shafik is charged with either felool law or one of the 35 charges of corruption against him in next few weeks then I'm guessing we will have run off between Morsi and Sabahi and then Sabahi will win.
     
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    moon Well-Known Member

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    Well he won't last long then, will he.
     
  3. Abu Sina

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    Shafiks tribal militia men in action against anti Mubarak protesters in Upper Egypt

    Yarab could you imagine if one of these Christian tribesmen was killed by an anti Mubarak protesters what the headlines would be! :shocked:

    Christians if you have not realised voted for Mubaraks man Shafik the guys in the photo

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    There is no mention of Christians in the article only Sufis, Salafis and Muslims:

    On Thursday, 500 tribal leaders in Qena announced their support for Shafiq, using "to be or not to be" as their slogan.

    During the presidential rally, Shafiq was described as a Sufi who loves the poor while the Muslim Brotherhood were criticised for using Islam to win political gains and not correctly observing the faith.


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    Qena is dominated by three major tribes: Ashraaf, Hawara and Arab, each consisting of at least half a million members. Qena has a population of over 3 million people.

    The governorate is also home to an influential Coptic community, within which many leaders also say they support Shafiq, who climbed the ministerial ladder under former President Hosni Mubarak to be appointed prime minister in the final days of his toppled regime.


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    So these tribes are obviously not Christian but Muslim!

    What else could be expected of you Abu than to turn round and blame the Christians for your horses defeat and consequently start stirring hatred against them?
     
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    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares. Egypt is a joke. Trading one dictoral regime for another.
     
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    Morsi lettin' `em know who's President...
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    Egypt's president orders dissolved parliament back
    8 July`12 – Egypt's president on Sunday ordered the Islamist-dominated parliament to reconvene in defiance of a military decree dissolving the legislature last month on the basis of a ruling by the country's top court, the state news agency reported.
     
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    I hope that Abu is happy with the behavior of the MB. They sure showed their colors quick enough.
     
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    I'm delighted because if your choice Shafik won then we'd be looking at civil war and thats what most Egyptians and analysts do not want for Egypt.
     
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    Once again: We will support the elected representatives of Egyptians even if we oppose them politically against the unelected military and Mubarak's remnants including the corrupt media.

    I'm sorry but I can't be like those who want selected democracy: it's either their candidates win or they are happy to live under a military regime/Mubarak.

    We can vote out the elected in the next elections but you can't vote out the military. The moment the elected reps decide to stop democracy, they are no longer elected and we will revolt and they know they can NEVER do that. The only people who want to stop democracy in Egypt are: the military, Muvarak's remenants and those who have unfounded phobia of the Muslim Brotherhood group. Just like the famous liberal writer Alaa AlAswany said today: "I oppose MB politics but I don't have a phobia from them". Until this moment they have been peaceful and democratic no matter how much you hate their policies or political agenda.

    Wael Ghoniem
    We are all Khaled Said Facebook
     
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    We are all Khaled Said Facebook page


    An interesting comment by one of our page members (copied from a comment in an earlier post).

    Eamon Lahrach:

    "There is realistically no way for the brotherhood to take over Egypt unless they perform a high level mutiny in the army. Firstly. they have no such leverage in the army and secondly, that is completely against their beliefs which is a civil state. If you were criticizing the brotherhood's politics or economic policies etc, that would be a rational argument. However to keep on beating the dead horse of "the brotherhood are taking over and they will remove democracy" is only making yourselves look worse.

    Hitler didn't lie at all in his election pledges when he was elected. On the contrary, he was openly extreme and yet the people still elected him. However, the brotherhood are no Nazis - far from it. Did Nasser or Sadat or Mubarak ever announce that they would assign a female and a Coptic vice-president?? No, it was an MB president that did that.

    The constitutional court in Egypt is an outdated institution that serves the interests of SCAF. Let me ask all of you, where was the constitutional court during the corruption era of Mubarak when he made himself President for life and fixed parliamentary elections by either preventing people from voting or using dead names on ballot paper. This court was silent until the FIRST EVER FREELY AND FAIRLY democratic parliamentary elections and decided to dissolve it and transfer leglislative power to an UNELECTED military council.

    And you call yourselves supporters of democracy. You people above should be ashamed of yourselves."
     
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    Ahram online
     
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    Egypt is so toast.

    The whole overthrow was caused by high food prices in Egypt. High food prices area classical cause for unrest. The French Revolution was ignoted by high food prices.

    But it will get worse. By becoming more bellicose and anti-West, Egypt has lost its tourism industry. Its agriculture is not adequate to feed the people. for years the Saudis have carried Egypt financially, but with an avalanche of new energy becoming available, the Saudis have lost pricing power. Yeah, they'll still sell a lot of oil, but their ability to periodically jack up prices (and generate enough surplus to bankroll Egypt) are gone. Egypt is becoming like Cuba after the fall of the USSR.

    The Israelis do not even remotely fear the Egyptian army.

    The MB has won the booby prize.
     
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    Only the electiopns were not free and fair and could never be considered to be so when people were inprisoned for criticising their rulers, sexually abused for peaceful protest etc. etc. Obviously someone like yourself who never really understood what democracy is about.
     
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    What happens in Egypt next time food prices jump? Another 'Arab Spring' or does Egypt become Syria?
     
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    My choice is Shafik and it is telling that you and others would have feared a civil war if he had won ( and I think in truth that he did)- it is a telling indication of the violence that the MB is capable of- I don't see a threat of violence from shafik's backers. The threat of violence came from the MB.
     
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    The idiotic April 6 Youth Movement has done nothing but move this country to chaos and ruin. They are very much on many egyptian's ignore list.
    They have had 18 months to get themselves organized as a political group and have nothing absolutely nothing. To hell with them.
     

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