Egypt now bigger threat than Iran

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  1. Abu Sina

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    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23196/language/en-US/Default.aspx

    oh make up your mind 'Oh mighty slayer of women and children' ! :mrgreen:

    I thought we were weak because we have no patents to show for year 2011

    we haven't even managed to bring a US drone safely down yet :wink:

    poor Egypt is still in transition

    give us time :lick:
     
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    perhaps the reason Israel's minister is so worried about Egypt is because the main contender for presidency wants to disarm them of nuclear weapons, even before surrounding nations are.
     
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    It's actually worse than that. Every single Egyptian presidential contender threatens to 'modify'/cancel peace treaty with Israel which is overwhelmingly supported by the Israel-hating Egyptian street. When your [crazy] [fundamentalist] neighbor is about to renege on a peace treaty with you, preparing for war is a prudent thing to do.
     
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    Do you support the MB, Abu Sina?
     
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    The truth and summary is

    " If anybody disapproves what Israeli governement does, he is automatically declared as threat for Israel"
     
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    Now would be a good time for Erdogan to renew calls for an apology from the neozionists for the murder of Turks in international waters.
     
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    The MB is not one entity and has many different voices and views.

    I support Fotouh who is reasonable and sane and he was MB. But that was only recently. I do not support Shatr the more extreme MB and definitely do not support radical Salafism Wahabism.

    I do not attend their rallies.

    Egyptians are learning all about politics now from scratch. We are not used to having a say at all. This is what happens under dictatorship. You have been ruled for so long that when you get that freedom you never had you dont know how to react to it.

    Egyptians are finding their feet right now.
    All the voices will gradually calm down.

    Our main concern is radical wahabism from Saudi. This is very new to us. We never saw this before 25th January. No one would even know what it was to be honest. It's not something that was even discussed. It is our biggest threat to become like Riyadh and Kabul. We do not have the oil to bribe radicals to keep thrones and positions.

    The MB are still on the defensive. For 60 years they had to live and operate with always a shield protecting them. They suffered under the 60 years. They are just trying to find a way to live without that constant need to defend and have made many mistakes but that is part of the learning process. Voting, having a say and a voice, being able to speak in public about government and to voice a new is new to us. We never had that before. To speak in a cafe and be overheard meant arrest and torture and that was just the man in the street. NO ONE spoke of Mubarak in public streets or cafes for fear.

    What Egypt needs right now is Fotouh the nman of reason and respect. We DO NOT, and it is a big problem because forces want the felool back in control,but we do not want felool, well most of us dont and it did surprise me here to find a member here in Egypt supporting Shafik :eek:mg" , that really was amazing, but we need a man like Fotouh who can reconcile us with each other. We need him to throw the Wahabi back to their caves in Saudi.

    Then we can grow. Be free to choose because we never had that before.
     
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    Boooooo!

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    ah but they have diverted his attention by bombing his border with Syria via paid rebels

    keeping him busy
     
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    What's the population of Egypt? Isn't it about 90 million?

    How many Saudis have you under their thumbs?
     
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    90 million with 50% illiterate.
    Take out the children and what do you have ?

    Now put Saudi sheikhs on Saudi owned TV channels into the villages.

    Tell them that they will go to hell if they disobey.

    There you have it.

    Quite easy actually when your target is illiterate farmers gathered round Huda TV and all the other channels featuring Wahabi sheikhs.
     
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    Change the channel..........
     
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    Change the channel..........
     
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    Islam Channel
    Wahabi
    Saudi-funded; Available throughout UK and Western Europe via Eurobird. Available throughout Europe and Middle East via Hotbird 6 and throughout Africa via Eutelsat Sesat and Eutelsat W4.


    Peace TV
    Wahabi
    Saudi funded; Owned by Zakir Naik.

    IQRAA TV
    Wahhabi Islam Saudi funded; IQRA TV is owned and run by Al Khair foundation under the supervision of Imam Qasim.

    Al Resalah
    Wahabi
    Saudi funded; Owned by Prince Waleed bin Talal.
     
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    Saudi-funded TV channels continue to radicalize Muslim youth


    With billions of petro dollars to fund their global clout, the Saudi lobbies have simply brought off opposition to their continued efforts to spread Wahabism worldwide.

    In failing to confront Wahabism, North America and Europe remain paralysed by a combination of political correctness and a racism of lower expectations while in muslim majority countries, the Saudi lobbies have used the Jamaat-e-Islami and the Ikhwan to infiltrate every level of the State.
    Together this ensures that the relentless radicalization of millions of urban, upper and middle class Muslim youth is going on at a relentless pace in only Pakistan, India, Middle East, Egypt, Somalia, Indonesia and Malaysia but also in North America and Europe through the concerted efforts of Saudi-funded Islamic TV channels. Examples of such channels include: Dr. Zakir Naik’s Peace TV (English and Urdu), Islam Channel, Iqraa TV and a few others.


    In her book titled ‘Reconciliation’, late Benazir Bhutto offers a bold and critical description of Wahhabi Islam and its home, Saudi Arabia. She recounts the history of Wahhabism, with its repeated destruction of the mosques, monuments and lives of other (moderate) Sunni sects, as well as its war on Shiites. According to Fareed Zakaria, given that Saudi Arabia has been a generous patron to Pakistan, it is striking that Bhutto was willing to write things that would surely have caused her difficulty had she become prime minister.

    This threat materialized in reality with the Saudi regime actively opposing the democratic PPP-lead government and its President Asif Ali Zardari as evidenced by both wiki leaks and this New York Times article which both highlight how the Saudis prefer dealing with the ISI and pro-Taliban politicians instead of those like the PPP who have the mandate of the nation.

    The very fact that Benazir Bhutto and several other leaders and workers of her party (PPP), and thousands of innocent Pakistanis, Afghanis and nationals of other countries of diverse faiths, sects and ethnicities have been martyred by the radicalised Jihadis is an indication of the violent and intolerant Salafi-Wahhabi ideology at play.

    It is possible to identify three goals of the Saudi-funded Islamic TV channels.
     
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    1. The first goal of these channels is to drive a wedge between Muslims and non-Muslims and create a narrow, sectarian binding identity for Muslims, brainwashing them towards a Saudi version of Islam;


    2. The second goal is to strip away the diverse and rich cultural heritage of Muslims world-wide by condemning and ridiculing their syncretic spiritual practices. The aim is to create a stark, monochromatic and intolerant version of Islam as per which all other faiths or sects are deviant or heretic;


    3. The third goal of these channels is to encourage hatred and physical violence against alls those diverse sects of Islam, e.g., Sufi / Barelvi, moderate Deobandis, Bohras, Isna Asharis, Ahmadis etc, which do not conform to the official Saudi version.
     
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    Peace TV Channel

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    Zakir Naik and dozens of his clones currently being produced by the Saudi-funded Peace TV network are a classic example of how thousands of moderate Muslim youth, women and men, are being subconciously and silently being radicalized by Saudis. Through a sectarian, decontextualized and selective misinterpretation of the Quran and the Hadees, Zakir Naik is creating divisions and hatred not only between Muslims and non-Muslims (Hindus, Christians, Jews etc) but also between different sects of Islam. Naik’s bigoted propaganda and insensitive diatribe against Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity and also against Sufi, Shia and Ahmadi sects of Islam is completely opposite to the tolerant and the inclusive practices of the Prophet Muhammad.


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    Similarly, the Islam Channel is known for promoting a narrow sectarian version of Islam wiping out moderate Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims from its programs and discourse.

    What Islam Channel has done is to give an un-due prominence to Islamist voices that represent only a small minority of British Muslims. This over-representation has also led to other voices “ for instance from the UK’s Shia community or from non-Islamist Muslim groups” being under-represented on the channel.

    Many of its speakers are Islamist extremists from organisations like Hizb ut-Tahrir who use the channel to promote intolerant and bigoted interpretations of Islam. Others are Wahhabi graduates of Saudi universities who have denied the Holocaust and promoted hatred of Shia Muslims. Other presenters are Islamists who have been suspended from their jobs in government due to their extremist statements or who are from organisations that the government has broken ties with due to their leading members’ alleged support for terrorism.

    One of the most worrying aspects of Islam Channel is the promotion of its extremist agenda via the views and politics of its presenters. Amongst these have been the Wahhabi cleric and anti-semite Yasir Qadhi, and Azad Ali of the Islamic Forum Europe (IFE), who was suspended from his position of civil servant earlier this year, following the publication of extremist jihadi literature on the IFE blog.
     
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    There Margot some of the English ones.

    There are many more Arabic ones.

    You should tune in sometime.
     
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    I dont watch them.

    Their target is poor and illiterate who cannot read or write and are easily influenced in the villages.

    They broadcast especially in Urdu for the illiterate Pakistanis in villages too.
     
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    Do you actually believe that propaganda? Back in the 1960s Radio Cairo was broadcasting that the Al Saud were really Jews.
     

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