Egypt's Muslim Bortherhood, Proves They are NOT "Anti-Israel",with ANTI-ISRAEL RALLY

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AS further proof that they have "matured" , I think, was the word used by the leading local islamapologist ,in reference to the muslim brotherhood, and no longer touting their Anti-Israel chest pounding, Egypt's , muslim brotherhood just held an ANTI-ISRAEL RALLY, complete with Anti-Israel chest pounding:


    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood rallies against Israel


    CAIRO (AP) — Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood staged an anti-Israel rally in Cairo on Friday, the first such protest by the main backers of President Mohammed Morsi since they rose to prominence in the wake of the country's 2011 uprising.

    Emerging from weekly services at Al-Azhar mosque — the centuries-old seat of Sunni Muslim learning — demonstrators chanted "the people want the destruction of Israel" in protest of recent Israeli airstrikes in Syria and the detention of a Palestinian Muslim cleric.

    At one point, leading Brotherhood member Mohammed el-Beltagy took the microphone and shouted: "we will repeat it over and over, Israel is our enemy." Others echoed the call, and one organizer whipped up the crowd in a chant urging the army to launch a war against Israel to "liberate Palestine ... from the sons of monkeys and pigs."

    Since the revolt that deposed longtime autocrat Hosni Mubarak, the Brotherhood — known for its anti-Israeli and anti-Western rhetoric — has largely avoided showing enmity to the West or its former foe on its eastern border.

    Morsi himself has repeatedly stressed commitment to Egypt's peace treaty with Israel, and won U.S. praise by brokering a cease-fire between Palestinian Hamas militants and the Jewish state just months after he assumed his post.

    But both the Islamist president and his group have had a hard time melding their longtime anti-Jewish stance with new responsibilities since coming to power.

    Earlier this year, Brotherhood heavyweight Essam el-Erian created a stir after calling on Egyptian Jews who fled the country to return, in what many saw as a sort of outreach to Israel. Shortly after the remarks however, an Egyptian TV program revealed older comments by Morsi, in which he described Jews as "bloodsuckers" and "pigs."

    The revelations raised alarm among senior U.S. officials and reminded Washington of the Brotherhood's anti-American and anti-Israeli roots — a stance some fear the group could easily slide back into should it find it useful or necessary.

    Morsi later distanced himself from the comments, saying he was quoted out of context and that he respects all religions. Such remarks are not uncommon in Egypt, where anti-Israeli, not anti-Jewish, sentiment is profound across the political spectrum.

    The Friday protest centered on Israeli airstrikes in Syria that targeted alleged shipments of advanced Iranian missiles thought to be bound for Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, Brotherhood official Yasser Mehres said.

    The demonstrators were also protesting the Israeli detention of the mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammed Hussein, Mehres added in comments in the official newspaper of the Brotherhood's political party, Freedom and Justice. Hussein was held for several hours on Wednesday for questioning over disturbances at a holy site but released without charge.

    The rally comes a day after Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an influential Muslim cleric and Brotherhood ally, crossed to the Palestinian Gaza Strip to join a rally held by Hamas. At the rally, al-Qaradawi voiced support for militants who fire rockets at Israel and said the country has no right to exist.



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    Wow. I guess they really have " changed", huh?

    No resemblance between these (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s and the ones who handed tens of thousands of Jews living in Jerusalem and the region to the NAZI death camps in WW2, is there?
     
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    Lefties will be proud of this.
     
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    They will IGNORE it, or DOWNPLAY/DENY the Obamidiot's role in the "arab spring" islamist takeover, after helping them DEPOSE our ALLIES.
     
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    I said from the beginning that they haven't and will never change. I also said that the mb would use the revolution as a springboard to power
     
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    As did many here. The Forum Left has taken to pretending that our current administration had NO ROLE in the "arab spring", islamist takeover, deposing of our allies.

    No wonder Israel is on "red'.....
     
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    We just had an american stabbed in the neck right in front of the US embassy in Cairo on Thursday. The victim was literally on the steps of the consular entrance when someone behind him asked him twice if he was egyptian or american. He was stabbed when he said he was an american.
    Fortunately and miraculously the knife did no damage. Pretty chilling.
     
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    If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: I have NEVER understood why Jews tend to vote Liberal/Democrat considering most (not all) of the people who hate Jews seem to congregate on the left. Heck, anyone looking at OWS could tell you that.
     
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    They're incurable and the fact is the world tolerates this nonesense. Because it's about Jews.
     
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    It makes ZERO sense, no doubt.

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    I also believe that history has proven that correct.
     
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    I am liberal and proud Jewish Democrat who voted for Bush II in 2004, McCain and Romney.
     
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    You're a brave man for admitting that!

    I know there are exceptions in this regard, for instance - the last principal I worked for was a Black Republican: a statistically insignificant group!
     
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    I am a distinct minority in that regard in my Torah Study group at a Reform synagogue. At another synagogue I was criticized for calling Al Bore's Inconvenient Truth movie a "fraud" after an in-Temple screening.
     
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    They will not. Your comment is stunningly stupid.
     
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    And McCain is calling for US interference in Syria where who know what the result will be when Assad falls. So it's not just the Administration who's rushing to nation build.

    As for Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood it's yet another example of poor leadership keeping the ME the basket case we all know and love.
     
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    As it has always been, except when the Hebrews built the pyramids, and earlier supplied a talented Prime Minister to Pharaoh.
     
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    Bully for you!!

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    Who prevented MASS STARVATION in Egypt with his wisdom.
     
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    We should support the dictators who are our ALLIES,and not the ones who aren't.

    Seems simple enough.

    I see the Canucks joined my Blues in their early exit from The Cup...the Blues are like the Chicago Cubs of the NHL....waaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
     
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    Ya know there is no damn magic wand in any of this middle east clustermuck.

    Freedom and democracy and not things that just happen after you depose a dictator. Thats is merely the first step in a process that can take decades to sort out. It took the americans 12 years to sort out the constitution.

    I personally think this is the Islamists last kick at the can and they will fail. Their culture can only remain orthodox by cutting of communication and access to information . the age of social media has already flexed its muscles a few times throughout the middle east and its only going to get stronger.
     
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    A good start would be to NOT depose the dictators who are our ALLIES in the war on Terror, do NOT EMPOWER the TERRORISTS, by helping to HAND THEM CONTROL of nations with MODERN MILITARY(s), don't kkae STUPID claims like "al qaeda is on the run"....
     
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    I have a friend who was stabbed today. He is Egyptian. There are crazy people in every country. A few months ago some racist in New York pushed a Hindu in front of a train killing them. When asked why, she cited that "they" had done 9/11 and that Pamela Geller's racist bull(*)(*)(*)(*) had influenced her. Pretty chilling. Shows America is a country of barbarians..... Or that crazy ********s exist in every country, but we are just a navel gazing, and only pay attention when something happens to other Americans. Then use cultural essentialist bull (*)(*)(*)(*) to explain whatever happened.

    PS. The Muslim Brotherhood is in a tenuous position. If they don't start producing results as far as actually governing the country goes, they will be out of power soon.

    PPS. Everyone who knew anything KNEW the Muslim Brotherhood had a really good chance of winning. No liberals every denied that, despite the fact that Grokmaster erroneously claims as much ad nauseum. All people ever said, is that THIS is how democracy works. We don't get to tell people who they can elect. If we could, it wouldn't be democracy. This is especially disgusting when it comes from ********s who spent 8 years under Bush telling us how Iraq was amazing because it would spread freedom and democracy!!
     
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    Total bullcrap, including your made up "Egyptian friend".

    The muslim brotherhood has SOLIDIFIED ITS POWER, and will KILL to keep it, per usual islamist procedure.

    IN addition, EVERY LEFTNINNY HERE was screaming that the "arab spring" (aka: the "islamist takeover") as "democratic movement, despite the GLARINGLY OBVIOUS JIHADIST CORE.

    Make up some more nonsense.
     
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    :giggle: Why do you scream so much? When I read your posts I imagine that they are the result of you furiously banging your head against the keyboard for a few seconds. I do have an Egyptian friend, I lived in Egypt for an extended period of time less than a year ago. He was stabbed in downtown Cairo today, actually yesterday now.

    The opposition to the MB is too great, and the military establishment still maintains too much power (and their ties are too close to the US) for the MB to create their own dictatorship.

    The Arab Spring was a series of Democratic movements, and the result of them was democratic. Not only that, but the people on the streets in January/February of 2011, were NOT mostly MB members. It was originally young people, then the entire country as a whole came out, including the MB (the MB maintained a position for a long period to avoid the protest). Your hatred of democracy when it is practiced in a way you disapprove of is irrelevant. It is democracy nonetheless. Your immoral and disgusting support for dictatorship is exactly why America is hated in the region in the first place, and the immoral and disgusting economic worldview you push is the reason our dictatorship friends could not maintain power. You cannot go against the will of the people in every way, remove all political freedom, and then push neoliberal reforms on top of all that. People need to be invested in the system. If there are welfare benefits flowing from the state and state employment making people invested in the system, dictatorship is possible to maintain. However if you take away the only thing investing people in the system in the first place, how can dictatorship be maintained? The House of Saud is despicable and they oppress their people brutally, but they also employ millions of citizens and provide numerous welfare benefits. That is why their stability is maintained so completely.
     
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    That kind of thing will damage your reputation as your leadership on issues of human rights and freedom will be seen as hypocritical.

    They did indeed. I'm going to San Antonio next month to pay off a bet (steak dinner) to a friend who took the Blackhawks to go further.
     
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    Where is Margot I wonder?
     

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