Election fraud of an entirely different kind.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Memos Show Roots of Trump’s Focus on Jan. 6 and Alternate Electors

    Fifteen days after Election Day in 2020, James R. Troupis, a lawyer for the Trump campaign in Wisconsin, received a memo setting out what became the rationale for an audacious strategy: to put in place alternate slates of electors in states where President Donald J. Trump was trying to overturn his loss.

    The memo, from another lawyer named Kenneth Chesebro, may not have been the first time that lawyers and allies of Mr. Trump had weighed the possibility of naming their own electors in the hopes that they might eventually succeed in flipping the outcome in battleground states through recounts and lawsuits baselessly asserting widespread fraud.

    But the Nov. 18 memo and another three weeks later are among the earliest known efforts to put on paper proposals for preparing alternate electors. They helped to shape a crucial strategy that Mr. Trump would embrace with profound consequences for himself and the nation. The memos show how just over two weeks after Election Day, Mr. Trump’s campaign was seeking to buy itself more time to undo the results.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/us/politics/trump-jan-6-memos.html

    The Founders, or anyone since, never contemplated an outlier like Trump would come along. Or perhaps more to the point, it was never contemplated that someone like him could get elected.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Early Trump Memo On Bogus Alternate Electors Set Jan. 6 ‘Hard Deadline’

    The New York Times on Wednesday published two memos from the 2020 Trump campaign legal team showing their early planning for using alternate electors and the Jan. 6 Electoral College certification date to overturn Joe Biden’s victory.

    First in November and then in December, Trump campaign attorney Kenneth Chesebro wrote memos to Trump’s campaign recount team in Wisconsin stressing that Jan. 6 — not earlier dates when Electoral College votes are actually assigned and cast — was the key date for the Trump campaign’s focus.

    “It may seem odd that the electors pledged to Trump and Pence might meet and cast their votes on December 14 even if, at that juncture, the Trump-Pence ticket is behind in the vote count, and no certificate of election has been issued in favor of Trump and Pence,” Chesebro wrote in the first of the two published memos, dated Nov. 18, two weeks after Election Day. The memo’s first section was titled, “The January 6 Hard Deadline.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...us-alternate-electors-set-jan-6-hard-deadline

    The more we learn about this particular scheme the more it becomes clear how heavily Trump was relying on it to steal the election.
     
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    House probe of Jan. 6 Capitol riot subpoenas Arizona GOP leader Kelli Ward, 5 others over ‘alternate electors’

    The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot issued subpoenas Tuesday to Arizona Republican Party Chairwoman Kelli Ward, GOP State Sen. Doug Mastriano of Pennsylvania and four others over their alleged efforts to interfere with the certification of the 2020 election results.

    Individuals included in the latest batch of subpoenas allegedly tried to send “alternate electors” to Washington to vote for then-President Donald Trump in key swing states won by President Joe Biden, the select committee said.

    That includes Ward, who also “apparently spoke with former President Trump and members of his staff about election certification issues in Arizona,” committee Chair Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said in a letter, citing documents on file with his investigation.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/jan...s-arizona-gop-chair-kelli-ward-5-others-.html

    As it turns out this was a key component to the attempted coup.
     
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    Marine1, why do you think that? They obviously thought they could get away with it or they wouldn't have done it so I'm not understanding your comment clearly.
     
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    Colorado elections clerk indicted in voting system breach

    DENVER — A grand jury in Colorado has indicted a county election clerk who sowed doubt about the 2020 presidential election, alleging she was part of a “deceptive scheme” to breach voting system technology that is used across the country, according to the indictment made public Wednesday.

    Tina Peters, a Republican elected in 2018 to oversee elections in Mesa County, was charged with seven felony and three misdemeanor counts, including attempting to influence a public servant, criminal impersonation and first-degree official misconduct. Also facing charges in the case is Deputy Clerk Belinda Knisley.

    Over the past year, Peters has appeared onstage with supporters of former President Donald Trump who made false claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen. Peters recently announced plans to launch a campaign for Colorado secretary of state, on the podcast of former Trump adviser Steve Bannon.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...-clerk-indicted-voting-system-breach-00015795
     

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