Election Results #2

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ha .. neanderthal states .. I was thinking exactly the same thing.

    Yeah Pa .. Just aint right der be a negro in the Presedential chair .. well .. at least he got one of his own kind as a wife. Hey .. wher dat pig get to .. Im horny.
     
  2. gmb92

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    A fitting end...

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  3. unrealist42

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    Romney lost because the republican machine lost its grip on reality. Far too many constituencies were not only not pandered to but insulted and offended on so many levels, most particularly women, hispanics, auto workers, gays, and every other minority you can think of. The red meat primaries set the stage by pushing Romney way too far to the right and there was no way he could pivot all the way back to the center. The stink just would not go away.

    The republican party is shrinking and its base is becoming more rabid. This does not bode well for their candidates chances in future elections. The tea part faction is all done, nobody is buying their crap anymore. The evangelicals have candidates that failed to win general elections because once they start talking they really scare people. The party needs to begin edging away from those minefields if it expects to ever win a national election again.

    The republicans act like people are not paying attention and have no memories. It used to work but not anymore, they can no longer rewrite themselves overnight, pivot on a dime and get people to buy it. People remembered that it was Bush that tanked the economy, not Obama so all the effort to put all the blame on Obama for the economy struck a lot of people as dishonest. People also remembered the republican obstruction so calling Obama a failure for not making good on all his promises was pretty unbelievable coming from the people who obstructed him. The electorate is more engaged.
     
  4. liberalminority

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    The election does appear rigged, Virginia a battleground state with many military people who know the President wants to decrease military spending. That will cost them jobs since the Defense Contractors employ most of the state.

    However I think they were offended by the 47 percent comment which ran endlessly in that state, 47 percent of the country indeed depend on Government and its not just welfare recipients like myself.

    The active military and veterans are net recipients, and they took offense by Romney's business man rhetoric, who wants to end all government dependency programs which include them.

    Then the big battleground state Ohio got government money from the auto bailouts, another welfare check for that whole state, which has many delegates for the electoral college.

    All in all, 50 percent of the country or net contributors were able to get some net recipients to believe they were on their side, until Romney demonize government dependents and that cost them the election.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with your analysis. Sure, Romney lost. But he did do better than McCain did in 2008. He gained a couple of States that had gone to Obama in 2008.

    The big loser was Obama. He received 9,371,373 fewer votes and he lost Indiana and North Carolina. The only people who voted were the hard core fanatics from both parties. The fair weather bunnies from both parties dropped out. The fair weather bunnies didn't buy what Obama or Romney were selling.

    The big problem for both the Dems and the Repubs is going to be to keep their fanatics loyal and engaged. If the Dems lose in 2016 it will be because something major happened or because they abandoned their fanatics in order to compromise with the lying shiftless Repubs. They can afford to lose Florida as long as they keep all of the others in the herd.
     
  6. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Surprise! Obama could have lost Virginia and Ohio and he would still have won the election. And you can throw in Florida for good measure. He would still have won. It's nice to have them but it's better to spend money on the true-blue sweethearts.
     
  7. Perriquine

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    First things first: I am an independent - one who is sick of both parties and their hacks.

    I don't disagree with anything you've said above. The truth of the matter is that people have diverse reasons for not voting Republican, independents included. I simply wrote about what I have personally observed through conversations I've had with people of diverse political persuasions, and that includes independents and moderate Republicans.

    As an example, I was talking to a small business owner this afternoon about the election. He had been voting Republican for some 40 years, but said that he's given up on his party because, in his words, "Republicans used to be a party of smart, rational people. Now the party is run by morons pushing religion and fear." He was particularly disgusted with Bachmann, and also mentioned that he can't even stand to listen to Rush Limbaugh anymore, observing that Rush "used to be witty...someone who made you think. Now he's just mean and delusional."

    I don't think it's so hard to understand why Romney lost this election, or why Republicans lost a couple of senate seats when someone who has been a loyal Republican voter of 40+ years has abandoned the party because of its fearmongers. The partisans might be able to scare some people into voting their way, but when they scare off the party faithful in the process, something is really wrong.
     
  8. Libertine

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    [video=youtube;eX8tL3PMj7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eX8tL3PMj7o#![/video]
     
  9. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO IT WASN'T. You can try and spin it that way but it ain't gonna work. Obama got 9 million fewer votes than last time. That's not a mandate. It's apathy.
    Romney got fewer votes than McCain by a smaller margin. 2.5 million. If Romney had been a bonafide conservative instead of a jonny come lately, he would have won.
    This election was proof that two half assed candidates can maintain the status quo, nothing more.
     
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    The Republican establishment put in a Mormon because they knew they were going to lose way ahead of the election. All this spending was to keep the Republican brand alive, but if they had put in someone like Rick Perry or Jeb Bush or Newt they would have lost their party brand in a big way.

    This way they can blame a Mormon for losing, because they knew the President was on a good trend and will not have to deal with him in 2016.
     
  11. akphidelt2007

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  12. Libertine

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    2008 was a landslide. Rarely happens. The notion that this victory wasn't huge is laughable. Even more hilarious is all the bozos here that kept calling it to be a landslide for Romney.

    I picked all the states correctly except Florida. Unlike Ham-head here:
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  13. theunbubba

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    It was not a mandate. A Mandate doesn't look like this:
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    Sorry but yes it was. Republicans will be forced to compromise and raise taxes.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Wow, so a lot of whack jobs who live out in the wilderness vote Republican. What a surprise. Take the whoopin like a man.
     
  16. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep the blinders on.
     
  17. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look boy, the only whoopin around here is being taken by you. All spending bills must originate in the House. End of debate.
     
  18. FFbat

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    It's odd that your tag promotes wanting Paul Ryan for 2016, but He's far on the Authoritarian side of Conservatism... and You're agreeing that Conservatism needs to move away from Authoritarianism...
     
  19. WatcherOfTheGate

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    He is also the guy who so childishly was bragging about how Romney would win and ended his adolescent post with "Suck it liberals". Too funny when he tells other people to grow up.
     
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    you're the one with blinders on

    the gop's fear-mongering lies and obstructionism are what got obama elected


    what a joke, face it, all your big talk for the last couple of years was wrong and you lost
     
  21. MannieD

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    Sounds like the same experience I've had with long time Republicans.
    I don't kow about other states, but NH voters seem to have had enough of the TP. Tea party Rep. Guinta was defeated by the same opponent he defeated 2 years ago. After the 2010 elections the Republicans gained controlled of state Senate. The Democrats now have the majority. The Republicans still have the majority in state house of representatives but the Democrats gained a large number of seats. A tea party candidate for governor was trounced by a Democrat. So it looks like the TP's time in NH is done.
     
  22. Subdermal

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    It's not odd at all. Paul Ryan is not an Authoritarian. Ask me how I know.
     
  23. Slyhunter

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    Hussein won with less than 3% of the vote in most of the swing states. So he barely eeked out a win. It was no landslide.
     
  24. dujac

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    the bottom line is that obama won and romney lost


    don't try to dissuade subdermal from liking him, ryan's views on medicare would likely be another losing ticket in 2016
     
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    Please do tell us what Ryan's views on Medicare are, considering that ObamaCare is going to gut it.
     

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