Elon Musk proposals to end the war in Ukraine

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Loss leader appears to be a strategy you ignore, deliberately or not. Look it up and btw, charities are mostly corrupt organizations masquerading as white saviours.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I completely understand "loss leaders," as when a supermarket offers grapes, at 99¢ a pound. It is apparently you, who does not understand the concept, if you regard any contribution of one's products, as excluded from being considered "generous." Understand, I am not discounting the possibility that this was a savvy business move, by Musk, to show the value of his service, in the effort to liberate Ukraine, in the hope that this might lead to having the U.S. start paying for it. The two points, obvious to all here but you, are:
    1) You have zero proof, that this was the motivation. Your opinion is based on an assumption of all rich people. While they are hardly as sympathetic a group, as most minorities, this is a prejudiced attitude, and what you are doing, in principle, is no better than someone else, assuming that all poor blacks, are thieves.

    So perhaps we should add "hypocrisy," to your vocabulary, study list.

    2) Even if this had been Musk's hope, there would still have been no guarantee, that his company would recoup that loss, with business it would spawn. So it would have been his taking of a chance, from which Ukrainians would benefit, even if it did not pay off, and it has been, a huge boon to Ukraine's efforts.

    As I now recall having seen you, in another thread, arguing against helping Ukraine, since we had not helped other countries/regions, in somewhat similar situations, I now fully understand, just how insincere, is the argument you are putting forth. Yes, that vocabulary list of yours, is sorely missing the term, "hypocrite."



    So you are against rich people, in general-- got it. Or maybe you have some special, personal disdain for Musk, such that you are driven to offer these lame, and insulting arguments, against my merely using the adjective "generous," to apply to the free services he's provided Ukrainians, which has included the launching of many satellites, as I understand it-- not an inexpensive venture. Whatever: it was not extravagant praise I was lavishing upon him; and I certainly was not regarding him as a "savior." My personal jury on Musk, the man, is still out. I've not enough concrete, and too much contradictory, information, to be certain about his overall character.
    Your character, on the other hand, has been amply, and consistently proven.
     
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  3. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the DOD isn't picking up this expense, so Musk said fk it, he'll keep providing it for free. Musk a "Putin sympathizer"? These precision weapons that are lighting up the Russians utilize satellite guidance.
     
  4. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very reasonable, only one thing is missing: who will pay for the destruction of Ukraine?

    BTW - free election in Mexico or El Salvador will add huge territory gain to the US.
     
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    As you offer no verification for this claim and, the last I had heard, Musk & the U.S. were still having discussions, over price, I will couch my response in terms of caution. I would be extremely surprised, given how affective a tool this has been, if our government was unwilling to pony up at least some of the cost for it. In fact, I'd heard it reported on PBS that the Ukrainians have just now been experiencing outages in the Starlink system, which greatly damages their defense efforts. I had taken this to be Musk's way of playing hardball: of showing what will be the result, if we don't go for the deal; and, while I recognize the business rationale for that, it had struck me as very unsavory behavior, from him.

    However, if your claim pans out, and the U.S. has actually turned Musk down, but he is going to keep providing this, for free, I would call that a great thing, he was doing!
     
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  6. Esau

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    lmao, ye ok you don't understand what a loss leader is. Smh.
     
  7. Esau

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    I'm sure the Khazarian mafia can call upon all of their illicit funds from the diamond mines of Africa to cover any expense
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whatever you say--
    since you've proven yourself to be such an authority on...umm...what was that?...oh, it was-- no, that's not it...maybe it was about...no, I knew more than you, about that...well, I guess on nothing. But you sure think that you are!

    Besides, your lack of importance does not warrant my caring enough, to try to deprive you of your fantasy, of always being the brightest in the thread; and your thoughts lack sufficient status, to worry about correcting.
     
  9. Esau

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    loss leaders, I'm really surprised you of all ppl don't know about it lol Interesting concept, you should look into it, it's totally NOT anal!


    Thanks for the compliment though.
     
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    Ironic: you (think you) know so much; but you misuse the word "compliment." FYI, there was nothing even vaguely close to that, in my post to you. But edit things, whatever way makes you feel better about yourself.

     
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    Hopefully not only Khazarian mafia, but also African Black Ax mafia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Axe_(organized_crime_group)
    Botswana Lefatshe Bikers with their illicit funds they are getting from smuggling elephant tusks
    and World Reptilians Humanoids who control almost every bank and every politician
    and also the richest person in the world - the Tooth Fairy!

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    Great story bro :applause:
     
  13. Esau

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    as far as I'm aware the Khazarian mafia is the largest organised criminal network in Ukraine.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As far as I'm aware the Botswana Lefatshe Bikers mafia is the largest organised criminal network in Ukraine. They specialize in sending albino people to Africa:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_people_with_albinism

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  15. Esau

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    what has this got to do with Ukraine?

    You're obsessed with black ppl. Is that normal for white jewISH Europeans?
     
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  16. zalekbloom

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    What has this got to do with Ukraine? The Khazarian mafia and the Botswana Lefatshe Bikers mafia are the largest organised criminal networks in Ukraine!

    I am not obsessed with Black people - long time ago I had a Black girlfriend and I am sure she can confirm it, but I noticed are obsessed with Jewish people. The subject of this thread is "Elon Musk proposals to end the war in Ukraine" and you couldn't restrain yourself without adding Jewish theme to this thread. How long you are obsessed with Jewish people? it is related to your religion or profession?
     
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  18. Esau

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    Ukraine is the region formerly known as khazaria, a kingdom that converted to Judaism. Stay on topic, thanks.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow! I didn't know it. In the Western racist universities we are taught that the region formerly known as Khazaria where Khazars lived more than 1000 years ago today belongs to Western Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan.
    Esau, I think you can teach us the correct history. Did you think about creating Esaupedia? For sure it will more popular than Wikipedia!

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  20. Esau

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    maybe you should study history more then, are you even allowed to do that freely in your village/community though?
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great idea! But which universities teach us that Ukraine is the region formerly known as khazaria, but Russia, Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan are not?
    Where do you teach history, maybe I will learn from your classes?

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  22. Esau

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    it's not the only one Ihave. instead of using a crappy torchlight, may Isuggest throwing a flare up?
     
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    I think Elon, is a smart business man, and has a lot of good ideas overall.
     

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