Empire of Lies and its chief liar

You really can not communicate normally, without trolling? Trolling is a method of communication in the absence of arguments.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?p=1066657437#post1066657437

 

I find it hard to please you. I do not know what to do. Anyway, there is my theme, if you have something to say on the subject, you'll be glad to hear.

 

Investigation into the death of MN-17 showed that Malaysian Boeing was shot down by a missile from a Russian installation "Buk", launched a Russian-occupied territory of Ukraine. To cover their tracks Russian hurriedly evacuated "Buk" in Russia. Now, Putin's Russia has come under even more severe sanctions. Empire of Lies deserve a pariah of the international community.

 

Glory to USA, who never killed children in the Libya, Iraq, Serbia, Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam ...... Glory to President of the USA!

 

It's right.
Russia has come under even more severe sanctions.
US State Department's propaganda uses tragedy MN-17 to take 100% profit.
As they say, "It's not personal. It's strictly business."

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I recall the essence of the event.
1) the President of Ukraine Poroshenko, shouting very loudly that in the Donbas is a war ......
2) The Donbas's rebels shot down several military Ukrainian aircrafts before the MN 17 was shot down.

Nevertheless, the president of Ukraine did not close the Donbas ( a war territory ) for civil aircraft. What is he waited for? He waited for the tragedy? He got what he was waited for. He got what he wanted.





The President of Ukraine is to blame for this tragedy.

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Look at the map.
The Closing of the territory of the war for civilian aircraft would not have caused any inconvenience.

A civilian aircraft don’t need to fly long away To circumnavigate the Donbas,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36350520[/QUOTE]

 

Interesting reaction Kremlin Netherlands report MH-17: there were radar data presented at the time of death of the Malaysian Boeing 777, which show that no missile radar station is not registered. Involuntarily the question arises as to why these data Russia hid for two years and gave comissions had worked, leading the investigation.
(*)Moreover, Moscow first claimed that Boeing was hit by a Ukrainian attack aircraft. But according to data provided by Moscow's radar or missiles or attack aircraft Ukrainian noted. There is a clear contradiction. This was followed at all absurd, that all the passengers of the aircraft were dead. In short, the Empire of Lies now perfectly demonstrates his essence.

 

You did not say what the loss to Ukraine is due Russian lies.Do Ukraine don't have these loss ?

 

Weird question. Ukraine has lost part of its territory as a result of Russian aggression, which denies Russia. Or Russia denies any involvement in the attack of the Malaysian Boeing, shifting the blame on Ukraine.

 

It is due Russian "aggression".

You did not say what the loss to Ukraine is due Russian lies.

For example.

 

President of Ukraine did not know what Russia secretly gave the separatists Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile system BUK, otherwise Ukraine will certainly closed the airspace for civil aircraft. But Putin knew and hid the existence of the occupied territory of Ukraine of such air defense systems that can shoot down planes at an altitude of 10,000 meters. All responsibility for the downed Malaysian flight MH-17 is a known liar Russian President Putin.

 

Ukrainian President knew that there is a war. It is enough to close the Donbas space for civil aircraft.

In the war, it can happen anything.. In the war they can beat, even on themself . In the war, it is impossible to guarantee the safety at all.
Here's how the President of Ukraine would have to think.

The President of Ukraine had to think the only way, if he was an honest man.
Alas. He thought differently.

 

It seems to me that you do not know the situation. As is known, the MH-17 flight crashed over the territory, which had been torn away from the Russian separatists in Ukraine, this torn away territory was proclaimed Donetsk Republic, that is an independent state. It follows only one conclusion: the Donetsk Republic, which is in a state of war, had to close its airspace, which was not done. Therefore, the blame for downed the aircraft rests with the management of the Donetsk republic ..

 

That you do not know the situation. More precisely - you pretend you do not know.

No one recognized the Donetsk Republic as  jural . Even Russia didn't.
Donetsk Republic can not communicate in the world .It can not close Donetsk Republic space.

If you are bringing the  jural requirements to the Donetsk Republic, then you recognize it legally.

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PS
The situation with the Ukrainian President has a clear.
Verdict.
Guilty.

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PPS
which had been torn away from the Russian separatists in Ukraine.
which had been torn away by the Russian separatists in Ukraine.
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Due to the fact that Donetsk is not subject to the Government of Ukraine Your arguments do not make sense. Russian own the airspace above the Donets, is confirmed by the fact that the Russian before the incident with the Malaysian Boeing shot down Ukrainian aircraft. The question is how Ukraine can open or close the air space over the Donets, if it does not own

 

Just declare as it is accepted in the international community that The flights are prohibited on Donetsk. Planes have to fly around the side of Donetsk.

In fact of the matter is that this is no big deal either for the President of Ukraine, or for pilots of civilian aircraft.

 

As far as I know, in Donetsk, has its own government that exercises power in the Donetsk republic. Why Donetsk the government has not announced the closure of the airspace over the Donetsk republic?
Your claims against Poroshenko like baby talk.

 

Not war, but anti-terrorist operation. Be precise. So you think Ukrainian president had information that Russia deployed BUK missile system on Ukraine's soil?

 

Donbas's government can not do it, because he hasn't the international recognition and an international official!!!

 

It does not matter.

President of Ukraine must declare as it is accepted in the international community that The flights are prohibited on Donetsk. Planes have to fly around the side of Donetsk.

In fact of the matter is that this is no big deal either for the President of Ukraine, or for pilots of civilian aircraft.

 

Why he had do so?

 

Do not ask such questions Rus, it is difficult to answer them.

 

The President of Ukraine has not closed the airspace over the territory of war (over the Donbas) - for that he and you and your colleagues could say this:

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If not for the tragedy occurred MN 17, the President of Ukraine would have difficulties to justify the actions of the Ukrainian chasteners in Donbass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVCBqtRYUrc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0Bgb-vAAY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Jme77Dfc4


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You are believing in conspiracy theory. Don't watch to much Russian TV.


P.S. Alik Bahshi was right.

 

This is not theory. These are the facts. Evidence of a crime that was made by the President of Ukraine.

And you, as a lawyer, -lost case your client.

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Sure man, But you are not only one Russian believing in these 'facts' Unfortunately too much Russians are watching ruSSian TV. But if I would be Russian and all my life I would be living in ruSSia my brain would be also washed by your propaganda. So what remains to ordinary Russian who are living in Siberian swamps? Only to watch TV and believe in these so called 'facts' [:


P.S. My English is poor as ordinary Russian [: haha

P.P.S. But I love you my poor friend.