ep. Trey Gowdy on fallout from release of Comey memos

YOU made a claim that the memos show no Obstruction. Obviously you had no basis for that claim

 

In no way whatsoever. That was Trump attacking his "investigators"...ya know...obstructing justice

 

Sure. "I want you to find wrongdoers" = attacking investigators. Lol

 

Yet....nothing.

 

In Trump's Orange little mind..."wrong doers" are anyone investigating him or his buddies

 

yawn

Comey says Trump referred to his associates and asked Comey to find wrongdoers among them.

Which means, lib obstruction nonsense = kaput.

 

Especially since it is BS created by the Hillary campaign and those in the intelligence community that worked to make sure she would win.

 

The "intel community" had a big part in how she LOST

 

How do you keep missing that it was TRUMP insisting on this?

 

Sure. You really have no clue what was going on. Dems are desperate.

 

TRUMP insisting that Comey continue the investigation of Trump's associates is the opposite of obstruction.

 

In what universe? The "associates" referred to were FBI investigators

Is that the "meme" in Moscow? St. Petersburg?

 

Nonsense. Comey said Trump wanted him to find wrongdoers among Trump's associates.

 

The Democrat party the party of the statute of limitations. What's the statute of limitations for crimes against America?

 

Do you think EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW, is EQUALITY? IT IS NOT.

 

BREAKINGBOMBSHELL: RUBES STILL FALLING FOR HILLARY IMMINENT INDICTMENT STORIES FOR FIFTH YEAR IN A ROW!!!

PF - The champagne has gone flat, the cake is stale, but the rubes are still wearing their party hats, waiting for the signal that will never come.

"I haven't gone to the bathroom in eighteen months", one creduloid who is literally full of sh*t stated. "I'm worried the indictment will come down while I'm taking a dump and I'll miss my chance to be the first to post about it."

As they talk in excited tones in their huddled groups, the eyes of the lonely chumps are constantly darting to their propaganda news sites, hoping against hope that today is finally the day.

"I heard an anonymous inside source has said an FBI agent said a judge has just signed a Tase on Sight (TOS) order for Hillary Clinton!", one dupe titters excitedly. "It's happening! It's finally happening!"

But, it isn't happening. It is never happening. And as the sun rises after another long lonely night's vigil and heartbreak, the saps wander blearily-eyed toward the nearest Dunkin Donuts with free wifi to recharge their pathetic souls with black coffee and day old crullers.

"It's being signed right now. I just know it, " one mutters to another as he checks his phone's signal strength.

 

You can't even accurately repeat what I wrote above. Why should I ever expect you to understand it?

Steve

 

Why the Republicans wanted these memos to go public is beyond me. The memos have the Republican President going nuts. All he can tweet about are these memos.

Perhaps, it is because Republicans are not crazy about Trump. They knew the memos would drive him into a frenzy.

 

You must not be following the news.
There was a program last night where using only Comey's own statements from his memos, interviews and testimonies, that clearly showed:

He used his office benefit to Clinton and damage Trump's candidacy-
That he was obviously biased in Clinton's favor-
That he knew Clinton had violated several laws and chose to ignore and protect her-
That he set up Trump in a way to be able to call for a special counsel-
And, lied at numerous points as investigations and inquiries continued.

HIS statements, conflicting with each other- not any commentators conclusions.
I'd say that helped Trumps position, did significant damage to the lefties- and hopefully will help get the FBI/DOJ mess made honest again.

You can't make something dirty by ignoring facts and calling it dirty. You can't go to the well of truth with a sieve instead of a bucket, so it comes up empty and you make up your own. All that does expose yourself a biased mud-slinger.
Comey let his bias and personal issues derail his integrity- unacceptable from anybody holding that kind of office.

 

Try reading the actual memos. They are on this thread and they don't in any way reflect what you heard...where? Fox News?

It's only 15 pages...

 

I did look up and read the memos. And, the news program I referred to was on Fox.
While you would probably discredit it on that basis, the fact is that CNN is unable to bring itself to report or conclude anything that is not politically biased to it's preference.
Fox does. While the network is clearly Trump positive, it is not blind to negative facts. Nor am I.

Comey's memos are rambling, and extensive. The story I mentioned came from the news people distilling all that down to winnow out relevant specific statements and separate the fodder to find the claims that conflicted with statements he had made at other times, including congressional investigations. I stated in my post that this was all with his words- not media conclusions. I don't consider conclusions facts, I consider them opinions- and I make my mind up based first on facts. However I'm also influenced, when it comes to things that are less firmly defined, by character- the consistency of the persons values, and the degree of respectability of those values. People who twist things or deceive are demonstrating an ability to do that, and it is habitual, a facet of character.

Comey's memos in general are the notes of a person who is morally adversary but playing along- they are defensive, protective, covering your ass kind of things done after the fact and describing conclusions about the meeting and Trump in a way that tells us he expects to need to do so later. If I had been the other party in the meeting those memo's covered, I would have felt Comey was evasive and untrustworthy- a person definitely not on your team but pretending to be on your team. I would have high skepticism of such a person, not confidence in them.

Comey points out for example how Trump told him he expected loyalty; Comey dances around that. Unfortunately, Trump didn't define that more clearly, which allows reporter to define it to suit themselves. Part of what is wrong with Washington is that most of the players are doing what can be called "Gaming the system". This allows them to bend rules to suit personal bias; to use their position for power- give favors, to control, to persecute as well as prosecute. That isn't loyalty to the job, the nation or the leader- but to self. I consider those swamp rules, and without question anyone trying to end that practice is going to get a lot of opposition, and much of that will be in the form of mock support hiding covert resistance. That is what I see in Comey's character and for that matter in the whole issue with the involved FBI leadership.

When a person works in such a position for the government, there is an oath that typically requires they support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Now that doesn't mean they can't believe that the constitution should be changed- it does mean that until it is changed, they support it as is. That applies to job integrity and support of the constitutional government as well. If you are on a team but you don't like the new manager and find you can't fully support the job requirements because of that- you had better quit or transfer to a position out of the line of such responsibility. The loyalty is to the oath, and the duly elected president IS the manager of the team at the moment. I think Comey decided the voters made a bad choice, but he elected, along with a number of others whose positions also preclude such behavior, to covertly work to undermine the President's position and ability to do his job. Those people no doubt told themselves they were being patriotic, but that is a self-serving justification- for preserving the swamp rules and keeping the power and ability to game the system. Comey chose to be one of them; people in positions of power and trust, deciding they were qualified to adjust the rules to get a personal political end.

There are several interviews done with Trump long ago regarding the job of president, and in some he described conditions that needed correction that has never happened, which he is now addressing, including this gaming situation, and how tough it would be for any presidential candidate to clean it up. He predicted intense and bitter resistance, just as we see now. If you look up some of those interviews, you can see that he had an insight in to the political system that was accurate long ago and is not surprised at the heat he's taking. I think it's probably hard to fool Trump, and I'm pretty sure that his gut feeling about Comey's position after the interview these memo's refer to was definitely not good, and he was right. Comey sold his integrity for his political bias- shot himself down, because he compromised his oath for personal reasons.

Nothing I see in the memos changes that view- it confirms it.

 

I think that the dynamic is pretty simple. The left have stated what they want everyone to believe. That is the "truth" that everyone has to live under. The problem is that what the left stated is simply so many lies as to be laughable that the left still intend on defending their set of lies because they demand that we believe the original statement. And, because the left control most of the media in this country, that set of lies is continuously metered out. The leftist position is then said to have merit because so many folks have repeated it, continue to repeat it in an ongoing cycle of hope to finally bludgeon the public into submission to their set of lies. This is generally how fascists, authoritarians have operated for as long as there have been greedy social parasites like our lefties of today. Truth is actually the thing that inoculates us from these parasites. And that, truly is the irony.

 

Give me specifics, not a bunch of RW BS that populates this forum. I am not interested in a lot of talking point blather sucked off a right wing AM station. Facts, facts, and supporting data. Otherwise it's just crap.

 

This may be a "picking the fly poop from pepper" kind of thing, but Wray didn't fire McCabe. In fact, Wray said he would resign if pressured further to fire McCabe. McCabe actually resigned from his position and took accumulated leave awaiting his birthday, when he could retire. Sessions fired McCabe. There is some controversy on the legality of Sessions firing McCabe over an incident that occurred during the Presidential campaign, when Sessions is recused from anything having to do with the Presidential campaigns.

https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/vi...r-pressure-to-fire-mccabe-axios-1143241283596

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e341b1fdb914

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-de...essions-oversaw-probe-sessions-lacked-candor/

 

Did Trump say he wanted Comey to find the wrongdoers before or after he fired him?

Before? Of course, it was before. Then Trump relieved "great pressure because of Russia" and fired Comey. That's hard to paint any way but as obstruction of justice.