Euthanasia for defects

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Why don't you start by looking up the definition of Euthanasia.
     
  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are we back to semantics arguments?
    Why don't you tell me, if a baby is not fed because it has some defect, would you not consider that Euthanasia?
     
  3. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    You need to learn what euthanasia means for starters. Heroics to keep some babies alive for a little while is unethical.
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It doesn't take any heroics to keep a baby alive who is simply missing its arms and legs.
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not a deflect. It is a direct response to allowing government involvement where they don't belong.
     
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    I'm not a fan of prolonging the life of a non-viable (without intervention) infant with severe and potentially very painful problems. Doing so is in the parents' interest, not the child's. These decisions should always .. ALWAYS be made in the interests of the child. Adults forfeit the right to make it about them the minute they conceive.

    Having said that, I don't think anyone is under the illusion that full term abortions will be used primarily for such scenarios. I would go so far as to suggest that probably the vast majority will end up being purely for the mother's convenience ("I'm depressed", or "I'm poor". Whatever she has to say to avoid the consequences of the very bad decision she made 9 months earlier).
     
  7. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're saying government shouldn't be involved in deciding whether a baby lives or dies.

    Or are you saying the doctor should get to make that call?
    Well what if the woman doesn't like what her doctor says and goes to see a few other doctors until she can find one who agrees with her?

    (And now with this new legislation in New York and Connecticut, the one deciding to do the abortion doesn't even have to be a doctor anymore)
     
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  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You believe the woman should get to decide. Does that include when the baby has already come out of the womb?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    The "Youth in Asia" should worry about themselves.
    We have our own.
     
  10. Margot2

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    You don't have to doctor shop.. Its evident immediately if these babies are anacephalic or have severe spina bifida, and so on.... It would be cruel and unethical to artificially prolong life.
     
  11. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So in the case of Down Syndrome, Epidermolysis Bullosa, missing all its arms and legs, you'd leave the baby to die?
     
  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you feel about this?
    Australian couple aborted at 28 weeks because fetus had deformed left hand


    Is it okay to abort if the fetus is not all perfect?

    How about if nothing is wrong with the fetus and it's perfectly normal, is it still okay for the woman to abort?

    At 28 weeks gestation, that fetus would have had every chance in the world of surviving outside the womb with modern medical care.
     
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    Blisters? Why don't YOU adopt these children with hopeless birth defects.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see, so more obfuscating the question.
     
  15. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we talk about some rational and sane regulations on late-term abortion when fetal defects are involved?

    Or are both sides of the debate going to hold entrenched positions.
     
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    Doctor... Well Mrs jones, there was a problem. You are the proud mother of a 9 pound eye.

    Mrs jones... Waaaaaaa,,, what could be worse than that.

    Doctor... It's blind.
     
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    Humans are the only creatures on earth to violate the laws of natural selection.

    There goes the gene pool, half can take care of the other half.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I presume you don't support the abortion of fetuses with good genetics?
     
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    As a Male, I have no right to speak of abortion.
     
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    Naw, I think we should populate the planet until we start eating each other.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither do you as someone who's born.
     
  22. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't realize the situation was that desperate.

    At this rate are we going to start seeing infanticide in the next coming decades?
     
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    We should sterilize everyone with an IQ. less than 100.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or sterilize them as soon as they come out of the womb, if the mother's not up to par?

    Question to pro-choicers: If the government offers the woman money, can the woman choose to have the fetus sterilized inside her womb? Would it be her choice?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a woman has a genetic condition with a 100% chance of passing that on to her fetus, should she be sterilized?
    How about if it's only a 50% chance? Is it okay for the woman to keep aborting until she gets a child that doesn't have the condition?

    If a woman is pregnant with a child who would suffer terribly for the rest of its life, should that woman be required to get an abortion?
     
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