Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    It wasn't directed at you, was it? It was for LiveUninhibited. So between me and LiveUninhibited, yes it is relevant. Now you're clutching at straws as you begin to spiral out of control. Quoting me when I was responding to someone else. Why do I need to quote, all there is to know is contained within the video. You don't want to view it because of the precious bubble, hey? As it might pop.
    What is there to discuss, you can read, right?
    Once you've read it, then we can discuss it.
    How do conversations work, when two or more people know and talk about a topic right?
    So if it is a one-sided conversation then that would be regarded as the other person listening or reading is being educated, yes?
    Point out where I've used this site. Making things up and clutching at straws, AGAIN!
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    As I said, when you provide evidence we may have something to discuss.
     
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    Message #94 in this thread.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ic-review-finds.608252/page-4#post-1074101473

    You don't even know what you're quoting.

    All anyone has to do is click on what's below that I copied form the end of post #94. All anyone has to do is click on the line below that I copied from the end of message #94 in this topic....

    Whistleblower: How the CDC Is manipulating COVID-19 death toll, Medicare paying hospitals to lie about admissions
     
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    Uhh no not going to watch a 2 hour video. Make the point yourself. PCR tells you a particular sequence of dna/rna is present based upon amplifying the signal, using a primer to find it. This does not distinguish between colonization and infection, which may be the their point, I guess, though it would not bolster your argument. There is a reason doctors exist to put the info together.


    Just no. Real patients lives depend on real doctors using these covid tests to help determine how to help them. The conspiracy theories are far removed from reality.
     
  5. UntilNextTime

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    Apologies in advance. I don't quote rubbish from MSM or anyone else that was or is a hand-picked sock puppet.
     
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    But you'd watch 2 hours of fear-mongering done by the hand-picked sock puppets, instead, hey?

    Dr Kary Mullis in a nutshell states that his invention, the PCR test is not designed to identify specific viruses. It just detects there is something present. That being the cold & flu.

    And the CDC and WHO both recognise that the PCR tests have given far too many false positives.

    So anyone who had the latter would be written off as having covid.
    It's far removed from anyone who believes the lies of covid. Of course, anyone would defend their decision by believing all the bullshit, just to save face. As the truth is coming out.

    Non-qualified people are telling us what to do.


    Heart Attacks, Strokes continue to SURGE in young people: Now we know WHY


    Satire
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m0Y1VOYUqlI

    An Australian senator raises many points.


    Totally understandable that you would defend what you do. Oh well, when MSM tells you, that's when you'll believe that it was all a lie, hey?
     
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    You don't quote much of any source from what I've seen.
     
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    The actual number is 213 health/science institutions. Christine Massey is continuing her request (which takes time) from more institutions in her hunt for the C19 'virus'.

    https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/foi...ication/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
     
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    Try opening your eyes.
     
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    Wrong. Manipulating what is posted. I quoted from this site https://www.sott.net/article/432426-Whistleblower-How-the-CDC-Is-manipulating-COVID-19-death-toll-Medicare-paying-hospitals-to-lie-about-admissions?ysclid=lfhkgla2xd269603575
    Which subsequently got the info from where they did.
    The fact of the matter is that you want to run from the truth.
     
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    Using your argument they would start with your latest thread starter.


    You present a subjective statement as a fact. It is not and has been repudiated over and over again on this and many other threads.

    Before you claim any info but yours is false and should not be permitted understand something you can not and will not control and prevent people from seeing info you want ignored because it does not suit your agenda.

    You recycle your threads as if they raise something new. They do not. They are stale.

    https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/y...reading-covid-despite-review-saying-they-dont

    https://www.cnet.com/health/8-covid-19-face-mask-myths-debunked/

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/danish-study-doesnt-prove-masks-dont-work-against-the-coronavirus/

    https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...cochrane-review-doesnt-demonstrate-otherwise/

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/no-that-new-study-doesnt-show-that-masks-are-useless


    https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

    https://www.kmbc.com/article/fact-check-debunking-misinformation-about-face-masks/37306178

    Cloth masks everyone agreed from the get go had issues.

    From the get go no one said a mask was a cure or absolute guarantee to stop the spread of Covid 19 but was one of many tools we should use.

    The fact that people with an agenda to deny Covid 19's seriousness and recycle old false myths is still a "thing" on this forum is kind of sad.
     
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    Why don't you reply to your own post so you can see the URL? I did it for you below. Note "[" changed to "{" and "]" changed to "}".

    ________________________________________________________

    {QUOTE="UntilNextTime, post: 1074101473, member: 124650"}
    Let me educate you on this, or rather the inventor of the PCR test.

    {URL='https://www.globalresearch.ca/kary-...-illness-can-accurately-diagnosed-pcr/5757224'}{SIZE=5}{B}Video: Dr. Kary B. Mullis. “No Infection or Illness Can be Accurately Diagnosed with the PCR Test”{/B}{/SIZE}{/URL}



    Yes, it is a false dilemma. Not that many have worked that out, but the majority have fallen for the false narratives.

    Yes, it does need to be. Do you believe everything you're told wouldn't you rather find out whether or not a statement about something is true or false and not just take a bureaucrat's word for it?

    It is just too easy to make these statements by these 'medical professionals'. Many people have died with "died from covid" on their death certificates when they have clearly had some other underlying health condition
    to add to the fear-mongering campaign.

    {SIZE=6}{B}{COLOR=# 0000b3}{URL='https://greatgameindia.com/whistleblower-how-cdc-is-manipulating-covid-19-death-toll/'}Whistleblower: How the CDC Is manipulating COVID-19 death toll, Medicare paying hospitals to lie about admissions{/URL}{/COLOR}{/B}{/SIZE}{/QUOTE}

    ________________________________________________________

    Your URL is highlighted above.
     
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    So from claiming I used this site https://greatgameindia.com/
    As I corrected you as it was this site I used, https://www.sott.net/article/432426...e-about-admissions?ysclid=lfhkgla2xd269603575


    Now you are claiming what?
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/kary-...-illness-can-accurately-diagnosed-pcr/5757224
    What is your problem?

    This is the manipulated site. Not that you changed my post or anything but you falsely accuse me of using a particular site that I did not directly use.
     
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    No. But I did once watch half an episode of Doogie Howser, MD. :rock_slayer:
     
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    Let’s discuss the deliberate omission of the next sentence of this FOIA request which is:

    While the department is not the custodian of scientific studies establishing
    the existence of SARS-CoV-2 and that of its variants, this research, which is available
    in the public domain, has informed the Australian Government’s response to the
    pandemic.


    https://www.righttoknow.org.au/requ...chment A Notice of Decision FOI 2777.pdf.html

    This explains why the “department holds no documents”.

    This is an example of the deliberate subterfuge that some engage in to spread obvious lies and misinformation. This article summed it up very well:


    I am aware that a letter advising that the department does not hold documents relevant to one of those requests is being shared on social media and used to support conspiracy theories that the virus does not exist. The extract of that letter, shared via social media, is aimed at mislead- ing Australians and has been, maliciously, taken out of context.

    Multiple scientific studies have isolated and sequenced the virus that causes Covid-19, demonstrating that the virus exists, that it is different from the influenza virus, and that it causes a disease that has resulted in more than four million deaths world- wide in just over 18 months.

    Such studies have been published in reputable medical journals around the world. It is this research which has informed the Australian Government and every health professional in our efforts to bring an end to the pandemic.

    In Australia, the Victorian Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory at the Peter Doherty Institute was the first to isolate SARS-CoV-2 outside China, winning the 2020 MJA/MDA National Prize for Excellence in Medical Research.

    This critical information was immediately shared with local and overseas reference laboratories and major North American and European virus culture collections.
    These peer-reviewed, evidence-based publications are where the scientific proof has been established for all to see. Despite this, the false
    claims that the virus does not exist and that the pandemic is a hoax persist, circulating on social media and putting everyone’s health at risk.

    Social media users face a daily deluge of false Covid-19 claims and unfortunately some people share reports and documents without checking the qualifications of those making the claims or the veracity of the claims themselves.


    https://www.righttoknow.org.au/request/8049/response/23164/attach/5/Attachment B Daily Telegraph Friday 13 Aug.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1l
     
  17. UntilNextTime

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    Wrong.
    If it exists, then there'd be a peer-reviewed medical published paper. Because there is no such thing as the latter, guess what? The virus only exists in the imaginations of the gullible.

    Find me a peer-reviewed medical published paper on it. I bet you can't.

    He forgot to emphasise "what is on my desk at the time". Is that statement meaning, "what I am told to say and do"?
     
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    Where are they then, as you would have provided us with at least one?
     
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    I thought I respectfully asked how you acquired your expertise. You certainly didn't provide a respectful reply.
     
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    I didn't falsely accuse you of anything.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/face-masks-made-‘little-to-no-difference’-in-preventing-spread-of-covid-scientific-review-finds.608252/page-4#post-1074101473

    All anyone has to do to see you're wrong is begin a reply to your post and look at the underlying code.
     
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    You stated/claimed I used https://greatgameindia.com/
    The site I referred to may have used the above but it was far from directly using it. A bit of a difference.
     
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    Anyone that has at least half a brain would understand the post and the responses.
     
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    Peer-reviewed studies of isolated SARS-COV-2

    https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00543-2
    Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
    Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1087139
    Isolation and Characterization of Viruses Related to the SARS Coronavirus from Animals in Southern China

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7366528/
    First isolation of SARS-CoV-2 from clinical samples in India

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-022-01135-7

    Platform for isolation and characterization of SARS-CoV-2 variants enables rapid characterization of Omicron in Australia

    https://www.scielo.br/j/mioc/a/3hzYZ4W4m4bHGTNX8fJS65p/?lang=en&format=html
    SARS-CoV-2 isolation from the first reported patients in Brazil and establishment of a coordinated task network


    https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2002589117

    Enhanced isolation of SARS-CoV-2…

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144
    Isolation of infectious SARS-CoV-2 from urine of a COVID-19 patient

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.02.972935v2

    Isolation and characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from the first US COVID-19 patient
     
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    Although an impressive list, I am not fully convinced. As these papers do have pictures and language used to describe covid. As a sceptic of it all as there has been far too much deception used that I've come across from my perspective.
    It's interesting to see also that there are no papers from places such as the US, UK & Australia. Articles perhaps but not actually peer-reviewed.
     
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    Sorry. There's nothing special about me. The information I've reviewed over the years is available to all.

    I've been interested in this topic since reading an interview with Dr. Stefan Lanka back in the 1990s. Lanka is a former German virologist who began questioning the existence of HIV as the cause of AIDS when he realized researchers were making a grave mistake in interpreting experimental lab data. After that I've been looking deeper into the nature of virology and seeing that what Lanka uncovered about HIV can be applied to ALL alleged viruses, past and present - and this includes animal 'viruses' like rabies, distemper, etc. as well.

    I thought, well, if Lanka is right, then HIV/AIDS will just fizzle out. And lo and behold, the 'epidemic' just magically fizzled out. Where are the millions of deaths they predicted HIV would cause? And they're desperately trying to salvage what remains of the fake HIV/AIDS scam by pushing medications for those who are told (falsely) that they have 'HIV' - targeting mainly the gay community who seem most afraid of it and accepting of this lie. The same is true of any disease attributed to a virus. Whatever it is, it'll fizzle out because they can't keep the lie going forever. And if a 'vaccine' is introduced, they'll give the vaccine credit for the disappearance of the so-called epidemic. At the same time, the vaccine will continue to sicken people, but they'll either blame the illness on a 'variant' or give the illness a completely different label in order to make the vaccine appear 'effective'.

    Now we're seeing the so-called 'covid epidemic' fizzling out, so they have to reinvigorate the lie by inventing 'variants' for which they'll continue to push more vaccines - all the while its vaccines that have been sickening and killing people (along with the usual 24/7 exposure to cell towers/wireless radiation like 4G/5G).

    Since then, more and more medical doctors & medical scientists have come forward from all over the world and joined ranks with Dr. Lanka. Thousands have now become vaccine critics, but far fewer have become virus skeptics. But it's a start.

    If you want to know what's sickening people all over the world, it's two main culprits: artificial EMF and vaccines.

    These two are followed in no particular order by pesticides & other man-made environmental contaminants in our air/food/water, medical & recreational drugs, conventional medical treatment, junk/over-processed/over-refined foods, GMOs, artificial food additives, toxins in our home & beauty/hygiene products, and chronic stress.

    The human body is a perfect, finely tuned vehicle. There's nothing wrong with our bodies. And microbes are not our enemy, but our friends - while 'viruses' do not exist. It's what we're doing to our environment that's destroying our health. If we pollute the air we pollute our lungs. If we pollute the water we pollute our blood. If we pollute the soil & ground we pollute our inner/gut terrain, if we pollute earth's magnetic ecosphere (with artificial EMF) we pollute our neurological system.

    If we can learn to care more for our environment, our health will take care of itself - and maintaining good health will no longer become a struggle.
     
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