Facebook bans Louis Farrakhan, Milo Yiannopoulos, InfoWars and others from its platforms as 'dangero

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  1. modernpaladin

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    I don't support censoring anything from adults. Thats why I don't associate with Facebook.

    I also dont support forcing private entities like Facebook to associate with people or organizations they dont want to.

    However, Facebook has 'public commons' protections, meaning they advertise(d) themselves as a platform for all peoples and all views, which protects them from liability of their users content.

    Either they are a 'public commons' and cannot discriminate based on content, or they're not and they can.

    They are discriminating against their users based on their users content, so their 'public commons' protections should be revoked.
     
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    Doesn't The Communications Decency Act kind of gut your point? Basically it says that social media companies like Youtube and Facebook cannot be treated as a publisher and are therefor not legally responsible for the content provided by others. However, in shutting down extremely popular channels, these sites are acting like publishers. If they act like publishers, then they can AND SHOULD be sued. Furthermore when they conspire with other companies to shut down speech that has migrated to other platforms by colluding to kill those platforms, they are acting in a monopolistic way that is extremely harmful to a capitalist economy. There is at least one big lawsuit in process right now regarding this.

    The unfortunate thing is that in the past 20 years, people who were not born in America and have no regard for American values have risen to positions of power in Silicon Valley... both as executives and as an engineers. Their values of censorship and authoritarianism have come with them from their home countries. Companies in Silicon Valley are being sued because they openly discriminate against white engineers in favor of foreign born Asian engineers.


     
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    :yawn: redundant

    I posted a couple vids earlier, would recommend.

    Not that any of this really matters anyways. Biased censorship isn't a winning business model. It'll be rectified one way or another at some point.
     
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    I hope President Trump will have a case against them. But I do not know. Maybe he will not try.
     
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    I certainly agree biased censorship is bad but I 100% stand behind organizations shutting out propaganda outlets that spread lies and misinformation.

    Honk honk
     
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    Was a good interview with the elusive O'Keefe, checking part two later tonight.
     
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    :roflol: - bitter about something? Or just having those occasional lapses where you lash out in anger?
     
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    The whole thing? :roflol:

    This is why your comments are often not taken seriously or outright laughed at. Nobody in their right mind believes that nonsense.... unless you lean so far left you lost site of the real world.
     
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    Lol, indeed.
     
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    That is a provocative statement coming from a man who grew up in the USSR.

    It suggests you understand the gravity of the threat that is leftism.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Were "conservatives" here up in arms when Facebook banned ISIS, Al Qaeda, and anything that they deemed terrorism?

    I mean, who doesn't enjoy a nice open discussion with a terrorist or a white supremacist?
     
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    Modern Left is much more Totalitarian and steeped in Identity Politics then USSR ever was under Stalin. Of course modern Left has positive ideas about Welfare, thus I am neither Liberal nor Conservative. USSR had a better Welfare system and a Right to Work.

    President Trump has no authority to penalize the Totalitarian Left. President Bolsonaro may gain such authority. Vladimir Putin has no real Totalitarian Left opposition.
     
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    Everybody knows what this is about.... Democrats are desperate to win the next Presidential so they are now silencing the voices of those they believe are most responsible for Trump's victory.

    For you to compare Paul Joseph Watson with ISIS reveals your either profound ignorance of his content or your profound aversion to thoughtfully constructed arguments that refute your worldview. In the marketplace of ideas, he won more followers than CNN and the leftist response was to censor him.
     
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    So are you against ISIS being banned from Facebook or do you support their free speech?
     
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    Here's more:

     
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    Oh it just got real. Snoop Dogg (with over 30 million followers) has called on all of his followers to post any video of Farrakhan they can find. It will be interesting to see how Facebook reacts to this. Not going to go good for the left to have white leftist billionaires banning a leader that many blacks apparently admire..... not going to go good at all.

    Snoop's signature line: "Ban me motherf@#@er!

     
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    They can't stop the signal.
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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news... you lefties have had such a tough stretch lately. But a free-speech social site has sprung up in response to FBs recent censorship. Called Spreely... its not for snowflakes. :hiding:
     
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    No, that's wrong. A private company is a PRIVATE company. Their field of operation is therefore PRIVATE PROPERTY. They can refuse service to anyone, for any reason, at any time. They don't even need to inform the person refused service of why they are being refused. They can simply shut the door.
     
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    Tucker comments on this...
     
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    They can be banned from using private platforms/property. We shouldn't have any problem with that, if we have any faith at all in the idea of private property (and I certainly do).

    What we should be REALLY worried about, is when nations - ie governments - start banning people from either access, or if their own citizens, then ordinary freedoms. Jailing people for words, cancelling visas, that sort of thing. That's the real and present danger. And it's a danger to all of us, regardless of which side we play. It might seem to be in our favour one day, but sure as eggs it won't be tomorrow or the day after.
     
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    But it's private sector censorship. The market will deal with that, just as it deals with all other poor business decisions. It's self-correcting, because we're always free to take our business elsewhere. If enough people give them the finger, they'll either wise up or fold up.
     
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    And that's how the market deals with the stitched up old ladies policing the dinosaur platforms.
     
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    This is the best thing that Facebook ever did, getting rid of these RW Trash Blogs Comedians.

    A good start, but still a lot of work to do to get rid of these RW Trolls who are destroying America.
     
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    For facebook, yes, it would work. But for the entire progressive censorship trust, no.

    Because the problem remains that if you make your own social media site it's going to be taken down by its host or registrar. Look at what happened to Gab. Gab never censored anyone, but they literally got taken down down because of the comments made by one user. So "make your own site" is not an answer, we're back to "make your own Internet".

    Besides "the market will take care of that", if it were a valid argument, would apply just as much for race or gender discrimination. Do you want to abolish all anti-discrimination laws? Or do you believe in the arbitrary progressive concept of "protected classes", so that who you choose to have sex with or what gender you choose to identify with are protected from private discrmination by law but choosing to disagree with progressives is not?
     
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