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FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims A 'Massive Landslide Victory

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Think for myself, Dec 12, 2016.

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As far as sheer territory it was.Even given the Democrats own California.
    territory is more important than votes.It speaks to a range of Votes and citizens.
    Not just Population centers like L.A. and N.Y.city.
     
    Foolardi, Dec 17, 2016
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  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the only reason Trump won is so many people did not get out and vote....
     
    FreshAir, Dec 17, 2016
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  3. Woolley

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    Most of rural America is monolithic in nature and culture. It is predominately white, evangelical and largely uneducated. Most of these people never leave their county let alone the country. Land area is a poor gauge of national sentiment. The sad truth is that because of voluntary or coerced segregation, white rural America is completely separated from the majority of Americans living today. There are not that many people in rural America, you could look it up.
     
    Woolley, Dec 17, 2016
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  4. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No actually that is ass backwards logic.More people throughout the states
    and in particular The Rust Belt and Heartland came out in substantial numbers.
    Hillary did win the Population centers.Meaning places where malfeseance and
    shady Mayors and Pols { Chaka Fattah } live to exploit Democrat policy.
     
    Foolardi, Dec 17, 2016
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  5. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The United States is over a majority of White People.Like around 70%.
    However Pat Buchanan was right to forewarn with his 2001 book :
    The Death of the West -.
     
    Foolardi, Dec 17, 2016
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  6. Hoosier8

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    Another poor excuse. This election turnout beat previous elections.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 17, 2016
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  7. FreshAir

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    not an excuse, just the facts....
     
    FreshAir, Dec 17, 2016
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  8. Papastox

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    Yadayadayada....this is why we have the elctoral college so that a state like California can't dominate an election. It is called the United States not state. Considering that Dems lost Congressional seats, governorships, state legislatures and blue states turned red, I would say that the victory was not shabby. As for the Russians, Democrats are just blowing smoke to attempt to taint the fact that Hillary lost when she was promised a win. Blame the facts that she's a crook, or Blacks didn't turn out in great numbers for her or Hispanics or millennials. Blame Obama because this election was a repudiation of him too.
    We tried to tell Libs before the election. They were gloating and spouting off poll numbers, but many of us said that the SILENT majority would speak with their votes, and we did. They need to dial back their huge egos and superiority complexes and reflect on how they could have been sooooooooo wrong....
     
    Papastox, Dec 17, 2016
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  9. rkhames

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    In 2008, Obama won 28 states to McCain's 22. In 2012, Obama win 26 to Romney's 24 states. This year Trump won 30 states to Hillary's 20. That sounds like a landslide to me.
     
    rkhames, Dec 17, 2016
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  10. FreshAir

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    except Obama won the popular vote both times, Trump got less votes then Clinton or Obama
     
    FreshAir, Dec 17, 2016
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    Which, of course, doesn't matter.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 17, 2016
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  12. rkhames

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    Makes you thankful for the Electoral College. The decisions of an overwhelming number of states was not overruled by a much smaller number of states simply because they had the largest population.
     
    rkhames, Dec 17, 2016
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  13. FreshAir

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    it means what it means.... just a fact

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    Ironic that you and I support the Electoral College, but Trump was against it

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    FreshAir, Dec 17, 2016
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    And what was Hillary's opinion prior to the election?
     
    rkhames, Dec 17, 2016
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  15. Hoosier8

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    Yes, it means it is irrelevant.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 17, 2016
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  16. FreshAir

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    it's just a fact for the history books, nothing more
     
    FreshAir, Dec 17, 2016
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  17. Eyeswideopen1989

    Eyeswideopen1989 Banned

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    It was a massive landslide victory. How many counties did he win compared to Hillary?

    Landslide victory.
     
    Eyeswideopen1989, Jan 11, 2017
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    Why does anyone care about Trump's lies. They are so pervasive that no thinking person should believe anything he says without independant verification.
     
    CourtJester, Jan 12, 2017
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    Correct. A landslide victory but not a peopleslide victory.
     
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    CourtJester, Jan 12, 2017
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    Hoosier8, Jan 12, 2017
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  22. Eyeswideopen1989

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    Yes, which is exactly why we use the system we have. So that places like California aren't choosing our next president.

    Regardless, I am glad you agree.
     
    Eyeswideopen1989, Jan 12, 2017
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  23. REALITY CHUCK

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    Wow! This "fact" is what made an impression on you? Nothing about Hillary grabbed your attention? It's a good thing Trump's ties didn't offend you; we would never hear the end of it.
     
    REALITY CHUCK, Jan 12, 2017
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  24. CourtJester

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    Well actually that might be possible although it might be nice to see actual data to support that claim.
     
    CourtJester, Jan 12, 2017
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  25. ArmySoldier

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    306 to 226 (with an extra vote lost after the electorals voted) is a pretty heavy win. It's the only way to win the Presidency so that's a pretty big beat down for hildabeast
     
    ArmySoldier, Jan 12, 2017
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