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Fake electors try to deliver Arizona's 11 votes for Trump

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sleep Monster, Dec 14, 2020
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    Reading that link indicates that those supporters of the biggest LOSER*-in-Chief committed crimes of fraud by notarizing fake documents with intent to deceive.
     
    Derideo_Te, Dec 14, 2020
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    The article is a lie, but about everything by Democratic outlets is. There is nothing showing any involvement by Trump or Trump's legal team whatsoever. But then without lying the Democratic Party has nothing but endless race baiting and creating every social division bigotries they possibly can by such lies.
     
    JakeJ, Dec 14, 2020
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    You seem upset.
     
    Statistikhengst, Dec 15, 2020
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are only impersonating electors the moment they try to enter the US Congress and submit their uncertified "slate" of electors votes, which no idiot would do as all 50 states plus DC made sure to video the proceedings.

    So, you are talking about a potential future event that has not happened yet. You do realize that, right?
     
    Statistikhengst, Dec 15, 2020
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    You evidently don’t understand what’s going on. If not sent and the current electors are disqualified, there would be no electors for the state. Not likely but that is the reason and has precedent.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 15, 2020
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    What is going on is Extreme Butt Hurt by the National Karen Party - nothing more.
     
    Daniel Light, Dec 15, 2020
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    Another quality (NOT) post from a usual suspect.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 15, 2020
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where does it say that Trump was personally involved? Or anyone on his team? I didn't make that claim, not did the article.

    No, it is not a lie. Debunk it if you have better information, but you don't get to dismiss it out of hand just because you don't want it to be true. All you did with this post is lash out.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It should.

    Lock them up.
     
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    Horse pucky. I understand just fine. These are Trump supporters who thought they could simply override the voters of Arizona by forging an official document and claiming to be the official electors for the state. They should be charged with attempted fraud.

    Please link to that precedent.
     
    Sleep Monster, Dec 15, 2020
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    The current electors are not going to be disqualified. Every adult in the room already knows this.

    a.) the results have been certified
    b.) all 51 certificates of ascertainment have been sent to the US Archives
    c.) The electors met and cast their votes, those votes are known.
    d.) There is no way to disqualify a slate of electors unless BOTH Houses of Congress agree to it. This is not going to happen.

    This is not fantasy cos-play land. It is also not 1876/1877. This is reality. Trump/Pence lost. Big time. by 74 electors and 7.1 million votes. Get over it.
     
    Statistikhengst, Dec 15, 2020
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    If they aren't charged, its most likely because they are electors...
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2781G4
     
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    Somehow stating a fact is ‘not getting over it’. Someone needs a blanket.
     
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    "While Osiecki's elector documents do not appear to have been taken as genuine, they are part of a weeks long effort, led by Trump, his advisers, and involving Arizona Republican Party officials and three members of Arizona's GOP congressional delegation casting doubt on the legitimacy of Biden's victory in Arizona and nationally."
     
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    So do you.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They aren't. Read the article. They are crackpots.
     
    Sleep Monster, Dec 15, 2020
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    How does that debunk this article about crackpot Trump supporters falsifying an official document, pretending to be the EC delegates for AZ?

    Nowhere here or anywhere else have I claimed there haven't been previously contested elections, but this wasn't a formal contest, this was lunacy.
     
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    There are no facts to back up the accusations of election fraud.
     
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    Yes, but Trump was not, as far as anyone can tell, involved with this particular stunt. There have been numerous other attempts to ignore the will of Arizona's voters, some of which Trump publicly supported.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you forget the "nyah nyah nyah" there?
     
    Sleep Monster, Dec 15, 2020
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    Stephen Miller presented it as a legal plan for Trump.
     
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    I'm doing just hunky dory.
    I believe in the democratic process.
    I'm not a fascist.
    Ergo, I'm doing just hunky dory.
     
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