Fallacies of Evolution Redux

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  1. _Inquisitor_

    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    Shut up everyone!!!
    No objections!!!
    No questions!!!

    Thank you for demonstrating the totalitarian, oppressing and anti-scientific essence of the belief in evolution.
     
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    Thanks for confirming that you're clueless.
     
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    Sure, I am clueless because all believers in evolution say so.

    No discussion, no objections, no questions
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    "It has often and confidently been asserted, that man's origin can never be known: but ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
    -from the Introduction to The Descent of Man, Charles Darwin
     
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    There are still people around who don't accept evolution?

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    You are of a very high opinion about believers in evolution

    They are well below the level of the monkeys.

    They have no sense of humor.

    They cannot laugh.
     
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    OK.

    I was wrong.

    You have demonstrated that believers in evolution can laugh.

    In their own way.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    You're getting very clear answers.

    Now, you think YOU know what science is. And, you've objected to previous statements on the topic.

    So, tell me. What do YOU think science is?
     
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    /facepalm/...

    No, it is a belief, phrased in pseudo scientific terms to give the illusion of fact. It is not a 'proven theory!', or 'settled science!', as you (and hordes of others) seem to believe. It is based on fallacies, ad hominem, ridicule and self righteous indignation. Scientific methodology?
    ..not so much.

    If there ever was a theory that relied more on censorship, bullying, eye rolling, bluff, and distortions, i cannot think of one that has more than universal common descent. Those tactics are as far from real scientific methodology as you can get, yet the True Believers and Defenders of the Faith in UCD won't touch real science, but send unscientific attack dogs to intimidate and ridicule any who dare to question the sacred tenets of their faith.
     
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    Well, the fact of the matter is that the theory of evolution is a foundation of all modern biology.

    And so far, you haven't provided evidence to falsify the theory - just complaints about being treated unfairly.
     
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    Yes, this was addressed in the OP..

    'Everybody believes this!' This is an attempt to prove something by asserting it is common knowledge. It is obviously not true, anyway, as many people do not believe in the ToE, in spite of decades of indoctrination from the educational system, public television, & other institutions intent on promoting this ideology.

    This is also known as a bandwagon fallacy.. thanks for illustrating my points.
     
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    Absolutely false.. except for my whining about ad hom & other fallacies. :)

    There is NOTHING in ucd that has a basis in any scientific discoveries or technological breakthroughs. Genetic research has only shown the flaws of the theory, & raised more problems with it.

    But this is another nice fallacy, to illustrate the OP. It unfolds like this:
    1. Evolution is science!
    2. Everyone knows that science is good.
    3. Therefore, evolution is good!
    The problem is, universal common descent isn't 'science!'.. that is just asserted, wrongly, by propagandists trying to force their religious beliefs through the power of human institutions and Indoctrination.

    Universal common descent is a tenet of faith, in the religion of atheistic naturalism. Like other myths, beliefs, or speculations about origins, UCD is just another opinion about the nature of the universe. The main difference, is that the True Believers in atheistic naturalism have been able to frame the beliefs about universal common descent in pseudoscientific terms, to dazzle and fool the gullible. They have been very effective at this.

    Also, i have been very prolific in providing scientific studies, analysis, and rebuttals for the claims of ucd.. here are a few threads where i constantly pointed back to science, in the face of the abuse you alluded to.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/origins-the-evidence.512854/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/fallacies-of-evolution.490664/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-central-flaw-of-evolution.442211/

    ..that is just a few.
    .but they should dispel your false accusation that i don't post any science, arguments, or rebuttals for the theory of universal common descent. Of course i do. The True Believers just ignore them.
     
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    These, otoh, are typical 'scientific!' responses from the Defenders of the Faith in UCD.

    Where are ANY scientific evidences.. NOT assertions.. NOT straw men.. NOT ad hom laced rants, but OBJECTIVE, rational, empirically based facts and arguments for this theory? WHY are any examinations of it met with jihadist howls of, 'Kill the infidels!!'?

    It is because there is no scientific evidence to support the theory. It is based entirely on assumptions, speculation, and 'looks like!' plausibility projections. And instead of debating it like rational, scientific minded human beings, we get zealous True Believers, attacking anyone who dares question the sacred tenets of their faith.

    They are MADAs... Militant Attack Dog Atheists, who have no need for science or reason, as they have antifa tactics to defend their cherished beliefs. In this dumbed down society of mandated conformity, those are better tactics, anyway. Loud, indignant, repetitive propaganda is always more effective than the calm voice of reason.
     
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    And you voted for Trump, don't believe in man enhanced climate change? Do you open carry when it strikes your fancy, love the idea of a wall?
     
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    ..funny that you equate these opinions with belief in evolution ...

    Are those other things also 'tenets of faith', for atheistic naturalism? I know they are for Progressivism, but I've always considered atheistic naturalism as PART of Progressivism, not the other way around.

    Which comes first, in liberal Indoctrination.. atheistic naturalism or Progressivism? Or have they become synonymous?
     
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    So you did vote for Trump, you don't believe in man enhanced climate change, and will love the wall if it's ever built. I thought so.
     
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    That has relevance in a scientific topic... how?

    :omg:
     
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    Because obviously, you're not thinking scientifically. You're a believer.
     
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    Those of us who have at least a rudimentary idea of what a human being is don't accept that they're products of evolution.
    Thanks, I think that's a fitting portrayal of evolutionists who jeer at skeptics.
     
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    Ah.. so you believe that to 'think scientifically', one must believe in global warming, have liberal politics, and accept universal common descent as the only explanation for origins...

    How does putting aside skepticism make one 'scientifically minded?'

    It becomes more evident all the time, that Progressivism is just another religion, indoctrinated into the citizens, with conformity of belief as the goal, not enlightened awareness.

    It is also ironic to me that you likely cannot see your own 'True Believer' status in these replies. I attribute that to an effective, thorough Indoctrination by the state run institutions, and their enablers.
     
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    Imagine?
     
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    Here are some recent arguments from me, regarding the debate on UCD.

     
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    Of course, science welcomes all questions and objections. That is how we gained the knowledge in the first place. For you to try to characterize yourself as some sort of honest Inquisitor, after the embarrassing display you have put on in this thread, is laughable.
     
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    Desperate, self soothing pap...it was meant to mock you, not be a "scientific answer". And people have been more than gracious by spoonfeeding you factual information, despite your obviously very dishonest line of questioning. You deserve no responses, as you are a deceptive time waster and in no way whatsoever represent a person honestly seeking information about evolution.
     
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