http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/03/...family-of-airplane-stowaway-delvonte-tisdale/ I am glad the judge dismissed the case, but I think the lawyer for the family should face some sort of punishment for wasting the court's time. common sense should have warned him about the dangers. that seems like a crappy way to get answers....and who should be blamed? Seriously, when will be people be held accountable for their own actions?
I think it's natural for grieving parents to be desperately looking for an explanation for the death of their child. This seems the wrong way to go about that though and I agree the way in which the legal profession handles such cases is worth looking in to, though there'd need to be great care not to push too far in the opposite direction and scare lawyers away from taking legitimate cases. It wouldn't be the first time families in this kind of situation have been taken advantage of in one way or another. That said, there should be serious questions asked of the airport about how a 16-year old could apparently wander on to the tarmac and climb in to a wheel-well, though that's obviously more a regulatory issue than one for the civil courts.
To me, that's the only part of their lawsuit that had any legs at all, and even that would be more appropriately addressed by DHS than a civil court. Just how exactly is this kid marching out onto the tarmac and clambering aboard an airplane? They pay somebody $60,000 a year to determine the maximum safe size for a tube of toothpaste; maybe after lunch that guy can spend a little time googling "fences" and passing on some revised recommendations on how tall they should be. I remember years ago, reading a Mike Royko column about this sort of thing. He proposed a new type of judge, to be known as the "Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) Judge." The job of this judge would be to screen every suit that was filed in civil court. When one like this came across his desk, he'd stamp it with a big red "BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)!" and send it back. Man was 30 years ahead of his time.
To the bolded.....a successful lawsuit that rewards trespassing into obviously dangerous [marked and fenced] areas could set precedent for rewarding families of dead (or injured), jay-walking pedestrians who irresponsibly darted out into traffic....spiraling into no personal responsibility for anyone...for anything! A "bull(*)(*)(*)(*)" judge....and "loser pays"....are desperately needed.....or we'll ultimately see litigation inspired "warning labels" on every single product, service, activity and area a human being could possibly encounter.
I don't think thats the point Winter Bear is trying to make. Something clearly went wrong from a security standpoint. It is critical to understand how this boy got access, not his subsequent fate. What if the boy went out and placed a bomb in the plane The DHS should have some very serious questions for that airport
The kid had to ignore warning and trespassing signs, climb a fence, and sneak across the property under the noses of what were deemed adequate existing security measures. I suppose airlines could jack up ticket costs to rim a massive and imposing new perimeter fence with ever watchful and diligent security personnel...... but as pro-amnesty/open border folks have insured us, it's impossible to guarantee 100% impermeability.
Or a more sensible suggestion might be to look at what exactly was the failure in security that allowed the incident to occur
I am very glad this got thrown out of court. I like how the attorney for the family is saying they just want "answers". What damn answers do you need? The kid went somewhere he shouldn't, and unless he wrote it down somewhere, the reason why he did it died with him. It's lawsuits like this that help lead to things like the TSA and over-zealous regulations. There's a balance between taking steps to protect people and realizing that all the protections in the world can't stop stupid. Some people are going to make incredibly idiotic decisions, and we all suffer when we are all forced to endure efforts to protect against every stupid decision someone might make. For example. Airport security is good. Fences around the runway are good. Expecting the airport to be able to stop every single possible scenario and then being monetarily responsible when they cannot is not good. That's extremist and unrealistic and...stupid. Glad to see the judge has a good head on his shoulders.
And pave the way for some massive, expensive, over bearing and largely ineffective government union represented bureaucracy like the TSA... oh wait....
So you are preempting what they will uncover. Perhaps it was a poorly screened employee who was asleep somewhere rather than performing the function he was paid for.
I'm basically saying....at some point, stupid or malevolent actions of every person on the planet cannot be accounted for, much less thwarted....no matter how many laws, barriers, preemptive punishments, money or personnel we throw at them.....which stems from a fundamental belief that no "society" can withstand a citizenry that is rewarded....either through successful litigation or the myriad of government "safety nets"...for their own irresponsible behavior.
Good information. Yes, he WAS ahead of his time. I've though many times that judges should be saying, "Your case is ridiculous, counselor. If I ever see you in my court again with such a ridiculous case, I'll see to it that your license to practice is pulled."
Maybe this is a "crappy way", but currently no OTHER way seems to be working. Apparently the city, the TSA, regular airport security and all the rest spend BILLIONS per year on FAKE "security" that can't even stop a kid from doing something like this.. They obviously do not care the slightest bit about our safety and their jobs. Maybe if they had to pay a price for failure now and then, they would be more ready to actually accomplish their jobs rather than going through the motions sucking up our money.
just because we spend billions to try and secure our airports, does not mean they will prevent 100% of incidents....that is just not possible. We spend billions also on pilot training, controller training and A&P certifications, does that mean there are no aircraft incidents? Companies spend a considerable amount of money on safety, does that mean there are no workplace incidents? I'm sorry, but if somone jumped into a lion's pen and the lion killed them, is it the lion's fault?
When we spend BILLIONS on "security" to theoretically keep diabolical and well-funded evil people ready to commit suicide out of our airplanes and runways, It darn sure should keep joy riding teenagers out 100%. Part of the lawsuit is about the kid not even having to exert himself to get through all the :security", it was TRIVIAL for this guy to get out there. If airplanes were falling out of the sky on sunny days because the pilot yawned, or the flight attendant spilled a drink, that is a PROBLEM. But the failures in our airport security aren't even being looked at. There are 100's of thousands of thefts from "Secure areas" each year, and so much more, while TSA makes fools of themselves over 3 ounces of water.
Have you bought a ladder lately? Lawnmower? Every time I need my ladder or mow my lawn I feel like I'm ready to run the Daytona 500.
So whenever something bad happens, the answer is more regulation? There's enough regulations already, geesh.
actually its not that hard, I could easily get onto the tarmac at Memphis International and LAX to be honest. Memphis would be a lot easier but not by much. Wish i could show you a map of the airports, sneaking into the fences at most airports would be pretty easy. The airport in Charlotte would be even easier because of the heavy tree lines all around it. Its not as hard as you might think.
That poor chap could just have easily been someone putting explosive into the wheel well. Security should make it impossible for this to happen.