Fast-food protesters cuffed at higher-pay rallies

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you gave up a job you love for one that makes a few bucks more per hour, what do you think that would be teaching your kids? Additionally, what do you think would be the psychological impact of your giving up a job you love for one you do not over time? Do you think you'd come to resent it? Regret it? Ever?
     
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    you can always go back and teach..... again, more options for the degreed person
     
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    I like teaching, specifically instruction. It's part of the my legacy to have thousands of people with something from me in them. This touches on the point I was trying to make early: teaching values to people and not just the value of things.

    Part of our national problems, IMO, stem from being a highly materialistic culture. "Keeping up with the Jones" has been an idiom for over a century now so it's nothing new but the consequences of such a "value system" are having a detrimental effect on American society. It explains the abundance of greed in our culture, both at the top, in the middle and at the bottom of the economic ladder.
     
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    I do, too. But the moment my voice-over career that I'm not actually working towards, takes off.... I'm gone. Hell, I'd be gone mid year if I was offered the next Spongebob type charector. Point is... no matter how noble your profession is.... with enough pay, you'd leave

    it's not about keeping up with the jones for me.... but a payraise is a lifestyle increase.


    I don't think raising min wage to $15 is a lifestyle increase, but if I'm coming out of college, looking for a teaching job, and can't find it..... mcDonalds is a substitute at such a high pay. So, instead of a teacher who can't get their first job going into education field as a paraprofessional, for less than what a burger flipper gets, they will go into burgerflipping, ousting a lesser educated person for the job. That person then has no other options
     
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    While I agree with your other points, we'll have to remain disagreed on the government-mandated wage issue. Better, IMO, to work at restoring employee's rights to "self-help" aka labor unions than letting Uncle Sugar do it for them.
     
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    Than they'll get government jobs and completely do nothing. Remember Workfare, now call a government office and listen to a "quality" government employee. Ignorance, getting better pay and benefits than the taxpayer.
     
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    I'm not entirely against Unions.... heck, I'm in one. but too little union power.... bad too much union power.... also bad.

    The trick is finding that perfect point. But when management and unions are at a constant fight for power.... you get a pendulum swinging kind of thing where power swings towards management, then when people get upset enough, it swings back towards unions, then you get Jimmy Hoffa....
     
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    Keeping criminals out of the corporate boardroom and in the Union halls would be a function of government.
     
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    I agree. However, if you are trying to define criminals as "those who maximize profits".... then we disagree.
     
  10. Max Rockatansky

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    What, in any of my posts, says seeking to make money legally should be criminalized?
     
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    You must weigh your priorities. If working a job for a few dollars more means I can provide better for them and insure a better retirement for me.....

    Hey I would have loved to have just played music full time my whole life. Guess what I would not have the secure retirement and wealth I have now and I would have resented that. I was able to balance both and work myself into a job I like alot AND play music which I love.

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    Well we have laws that do that more so on the business side than the labor side.
     
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    Balance is good, but it was a black and white question. I've seen plenty of people who make a ton of cash and are not happy. In fact, they are anxious to retire early. I doubt they'll find happiness there either since happiness isn't bought.
     
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    nothing... but there are lots on here that would define "criminals" to include "greedy white men", and I'm gaurded against that.


    I'm all for keeping execs like the Enron guy out of CEO spots in other big industries.... but you have to be careful saying "criminals" because many define that term funny
     
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    There are racists (of all races), idiots and all sorts of people on here. My best advice is not to attack, accuse or otherwise assume anything on anyone unless they give evidence of being so. However, asking a question is fair such as "Do you think making money should be criminalized?"
     
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    I just know what will happen.... a seemingly obvious statement like "all criminals should be kept out" is a way to say "it's criminal that they make so much money" argument.
     
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    Some would probably think that even though you and I know it would be idiotic and/or mentally warped.
     
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    Hmm silence.
     

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