Dismiss Notice
Thanks for being a member of our community. Please donate toward site expenses if you can.

Fast food workers strike for $15 minimum wage

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by trucker, Sep 4, 2017.

Page 3 of 13
  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113

    CEO's have far more responsibility. Picking a bad business plan can affect millions of people, burning someone's fries doesn't.
     
    Spooky, Sep 4, 2017
    #51
  2. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're ignoring the basic premise of a market economy - elasticity. Fine, raise the wage to $15. Those workers will enjoy a temporary boost in buying power - until the market corrects, prices go up to accommodate the higher labor costs, and then your unskilled friends at the bottom are right back at the bottom. And they will always be at the bottom unless they obtain a skill that improves the real value of their labor.
     
    Bow To The Robots, Sep 4, 2017
    #52
    Labouroflove and Bear513 like this.
  3. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A Big Mac in Switzerland is $12. Case closed.
     
    Bow To The Robots, Sep 4, 2017
    #53
    Bear513 likes this.
  4. willburroughs

    willburroughs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2013
    Messages:
    2,276
    Likes Received:
    324
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What is the point of that question? Are you asserting that a $15 wage would result in a doubling of food prices?
     
    willburroughs, Sep 4, 2017
    #54
  5. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Well I do admit I have a biased motive, I lived in the Chicago area for 38 years and in South Carolina for the past 14 years I know the cost of living and job prospects in both places.

    With that being said I like the national MW the way it is, so companies move here, they see our MW is $7.25 they think good we will start people of $4~$8 bucks more and those employees will be happy .

    If the national MW was raised to $10~$15 an hour why would they come here, with our less educated labor force?
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #55
  6. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    First off, this isn’t going to happen. There is no way in hell the CEO’s are going to go with 15/hr. If the mim. wage laws go up, they will just bring on the machines with a small skeleton crew to run it. 2nd Crew member or entry level people don’t deserve 15/hr. 15/hr is 31,000/yr. Enty level is just htat, entry level.

    Now with that said, I can say that management should be getting 13-15/hr. Because of the skills and responsibility they have.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #56
  7. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My wife works as a support manager at MCD. I can't tell you how many people don't show up, or don't do their jobs or comp her attitude. Out of 30 people at her store, about 12-15 of them do it. Its BS and the thing is they don't get fired.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #57
  8. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,867
    Likes Received:
    28,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    If South Carolina employers are happy to pay $11-15 anyway, why would they jib at a MW of $10-15?
     
    Sallyally, Sep 4, 2017
    #58
  9. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,867
    Likes Received:
    28,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    If people have a job that pays poor wages, that possibly means that the job is also not very good and why would you bother about your job performance? If workers aren't valued , why should the quality of their work be valued?
     
    Sallyally, Sep 4, 2017
    #59
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,682
    Likes Received:
    3,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The greedy scum whined liked babies when they had to start paying their workers 25 cents an hour with the first minimum wage.
     
    The Wyrd of Gawd, Sep 4, 2017
    #60
  11. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Flagstaff did the same thing and they had to reduce it because business were leaving left and right due to do it.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #61
    Bear513 likes this.
  12. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The other 75% ish who work there they don't complain, they show up, do their jobs. Also entry level jobs at like MCD, don't pay you a lot, and they shouldn't. you there to learn to work.
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2017
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #62
  13. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Ask yourself if you were an employee, one day you think " great I am making $4 bucks over minimum wage" then you wake up the next morning finding out you are now just making minimum wage .....

    Would you be happy?

    Btw in case you didn't know last I read like 50% of Americans make $15 or less and this includes skill jobs that people went to school for.
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #63
  14. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Did they reduce it? I saw some news reports about business closing down a few weeks ago.
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #64
  15. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29,682
    Likes Received:
    3,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So reduce the mini mum wage to 25 cents an hour and you can then cut the salary of the typical CEO to $2,000 per year.
     
    The Wyrd of Gawd, Sep 4, 2017
    #65
  16. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Minimum wage started as a racist law to keep blacks from working.
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #66
  17. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    8,944
    Likes Received:
    3,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The minimum is actually a racist construct to keep blacks from competing with whites. True story.

    Edit: Bear made it before me. #Greatmindsthinkalike. :p
     
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2017
    Ritter, Sep 4, 2017
    #67
    Bear513 likes this.
  18. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Dang you made me laugh...
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #68
  19. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,867
    Likes Received:
    28,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    If half of your workforce doesn't care about their jobs, does it say anything about the job, or just the workers?
     
    Sallyally, Sep 4, 2017
    #69
  20. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,867
    Likes Received:
    28,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Do minimum wage workers think like this? If they did, would there be any minimum wage workers?
     
    Sallyally, Sep 4, 2017
    #70
  21. Bear513

    Bear513 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2012
    Messages:
    7,576
    Likes Received:
    2,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last I read only 3% of the work force makes minimum wage , this is more about the people who live in the cities, the ones who make $8~$10 an hour .
     
    Bear513, Sep 4, 2017
    #71
    Sallyally likes this.
  22. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As with all things, the price of the finished good in question will be set by the market.
     
    Bow To The Robots, Sep 4, 2017
    #72
  23. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Compensation should be a private matter between employer and employee.
     
    Bow To The Robots, Sep 4, 2017
    #73
    roorooroo likes this.
  24. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They lowered it back to something more manageable.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #74
  25. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    About the workers. Here is the thing, you don't like your job then resign.
     
    EMTdaniel86, Sep 4, 2017
    #75
Page 3 of 13

Share This Page