Father Vs. Teacher

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  1. ibshambat

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    Much has been said about any number of conflicts that can take place at the family level; but there is one such conflict that I have not seen addressed. That is the conflict between the father and the teacher.

    The father wants the child to be what he regards to be normal. But the teacher sees in the child an extraordinary ability and wants to encourage the child toward greatness. The father sees the teacher as being a threat to his authority over the child. He denigrates the child's accomplishments and says various ugly things. Other kids pitch in by saying such things as that academic knowledge is worthless and that all that matters in life is social skills and common sense, which they say he does not have.

    The child takes the worst from all sides. He becomes both arrogant and tortured. He starts acting like a complete psycho. The father blames the teacher; the teacher blames the father. And when the child becomes an adult others blame him and call him such things as a narcissist or a sociopath, neither of which he is.

    At the larger level, we see the same conflict play out between business world and the academia. We see many people complain that the academics are teaching things that are useless or wrong. They want to defund the academia and replace it with institutions that have their values. On some issues they are right. I see no reason at all why the taxpayer would want to support the institutions of political correctness and Third Wave feminism. However there is and always will be the need for science and education, and for the academia to exist and be adequately funded is crucial for the country.

    What is the right way to solve these kinds of problems? Maybe it is for everyone to know the righful parameters of their role and to wield their power rightfully. The father does have the authority over the child, but he has to wield it rightfully. He cannot be dictating to the child how the child can live, nor can he be mistreating the child. As for the teacher, he has to recognize as well that he is not the child's father and to honor the legitimate parameters of the father's role.

    I have a stepson, and I never attempted to replace his father as a father. I spent a lot of time with him, but I saw my role as mainly educational rather than parental. I taught him quite a lot, but I never took on the authoritative role in his life. I left such things to his mother and his father.

    I am writing this mainly because I have not seen writing about these kinds of conflicts. Maybe attention should be paid to such a thing. Probably the only place where I have seen this addressed is the film Shine about an Australian pianist who was in this kind of a situation. And I think that more needs to be said about this, as it is obviously a source of problems for many people.
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    I see no hints of what the heck you think this means for education.

    Are educational institutions supposed to make way for white supremacy, for pretending that creationism is science, for ignoring that sexuality is complex and how the seriously held choices of individuals deserve full respect, etc.?

    Are schools supposed to stop making students aware of exactly what communism and socialism are?

    Are universities supposed to stop allowing students to advance our understanding of disease, of climate, of poverty, etc?

    Do our history departments have to teach false narratives concerning issues such as Iraq, Egypt, Israel, Vietnam, etc.

    Are schools of economiics supposed to start ignoring the enormouse advantages of international trade, the harm to oneself of impeding worled economic interaction.?

    We have a president who lies every single day of his life. Are educational institutions supposed to make way for those lies to be supported as they teach science, the constitution, its checks and balances and other issues of civics, science, phylosophy, history, etc.?

    I'm sorry, but education has to be the search for accurate understanding. There really isn't some other path designed to accommodate every parent who thinks they know better.
     
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    Cougarbear: Spoken like a true fascist/communist. The Government should take the place of parents in what they learn. Parents do know better. And, it's their responsibility to train up a child in the way of the Lord and then let them govern themselves. Not the teachers in a secular government run 1619 project crap educational system. My granddaughter told me evolution is when an animal changes something to fit its environment. I explained that the DNA did not change and therefore is the same animal. No evolution. She said, well what about viruses and bacteria that mutate. Aren't they different when that happens? I said no because their DNA is the same. They lost some ability to attach themselves to their hosts. They didn't grow new receptors. They didn't evolve into a higher creature. She's 14. What crap she learns from school. As a grandparent who she lives with, it's my duty to see that she has correct understanding and seeks to know the Lord better. :-/~
     
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  4. WillReadmore

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    Exactly. The DNA DOES change. You taught your grandaughter a false biology - though it sounds like she DID learn the truth in school and simply failed to teach YOU.

    And, your comments on viruses are equally ridiculous. Viruses DO change. That's why new flu vaccines are required every year. That's why medical science is watching the changes in the virus that causes COVID. These viruses ARE exhibiting changes in their receptors, for example - not just changes in the genetic material they insert.

    This is the problem.

    You can teach her your personal religious beliefs.

    But, you are doing HARM to her when you teach CRAP about science and other topics where you have not had the time or means to keep up.

    There is no possibility of every citizen keeping up with the advances in all fields of endeavor. Even trying to keep up in ONE such field is a serious challenge.
     

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