FBI recovered 11 sets of classified documents in Trump search: report

This revelation of criminal activity will not affect trump’s supporters. They either won’t believe he did anything wrong or won’t care.

 

Another stretch. Why must you folks always invent a crime? The fact that this man has this effect on you, staggering...

 

Well, yeah, it does matter if it's classified, or not.

 

If only he had the help of left leaning social platforms that would suppress information like they did over Biden's son's laptop. Calling it Russian disinformation goes a long way towards convincing voters not to care about it.

 

Why you whining on about Trump ... in some throws of latent TDS because Hillary Lost. You complain about Red whining .. but it turns out that the Whine is coming from Blue .. and You

 

only what's been reported in the property receipt.

 

Trump doesn’t need that kind of help. He doesn’t need to have information suppressed. Even if it comes out and is irrefutable and is extremely serious, his supporters still won’t believe it or won’t care.

 

Funny, Yahoo News has not killed the comment section of this article? Some 1100 comments in the article. Or is the reason why you can't post there is because you violated the TOS agreement when making comments?

 

It's the Independents that this is aimed at. Democrats know the deplorables aren't winnable, but those Independents make all the difference in winning or losing.

 

Violations of the RRA may lead to 18 USC 2071, Unlawful Access to Stored Communications, and/or 18 USC 1505, Obstruction of proceedings before Departments, Agencies, or Committees. These two violations can lead a person to substantial jail time and;/or fines if found guilty. But yes, violations of the PRA can lead to something like this.

Second, when it comes to TSSCI, TS, and Confidential government records, the President has the authority to declassify them, but to do so will require a process described in EO 13526 in which the issuing agency will address any and all "issues" in the document for potential national security risk to government operations in the future, or in other words, redacted segments in the said documents before that document can be released to the general public, including ex-presidents. Every national security expert agrees this should be done as the proper way. It is those details that will show that Trump simply cannot use that excuse and think it is over. If it was not followed through, it is still on him, to begin with, and no one else. BTW, no one is arguiing that Trump does not have the authority. the argument is, was the process followed legally under the law? And that answer is a resounding NO.

When it came to HRC and the "nongovernmental server," that is the past, this is the present. Deal with the present Zorro, if you have the cajones.

 

Or both

 

The independents do care and second, we want the scorch earth policy when it comes to politics.

 

Corrupt politicians on both sides of the aisle isn't a surprise to anyone. We expect it, but what we shouldn't expect or accept is when they use our Intel and/or LE to target the other political opponent. It goes against the grain of equal justice under the law.

 

But that hasn't happened, at least with Trump is concerned. He was given a subpoena to turn over all records, he partially complied with his lawyer signing an affidavit that all records were removed, the FBI found out there is more, hence the search warrant. This series of events happen all the time. The only difference is that Trump was just the latest, not the first, to do this sort of thing.

This is what should happen: If you threaten the FBI or any law enforcement officer, then law enforcement should use "extreme prejudice" when doing a no-knock search warrant. If the RW wants to start a CW, then no mercy and no surrender should be the only rules of engagement, and that applies to them and their combined families who support them. As for politicians, fire/terminate all 535 of them and just start over with only a three-month election period from filing the candidacy to the election. NO D, no R, no G, no L no political party whatsoever behind the name. But then again, we can't get what we want, can we?

 

If the subpoena worked the first time there's no rule saying a second one can't be issued. That would be the "least intrusive" policy at work.

 

You should supply the links anyway. It strengthens your points and shows you didn't just make whatever up and post it from your mind.

 

Fake News. If Congress wanted to put criminal sanctions into the PRA they could have, THEY DIDN'T. It's only lying Merrick Garland who wants to pretend that this is a criminal statute, just for Trump. Which won't fly.

But, enjoy howling at the moon. There will be no charges for PDA, because these are not criminal statutes. And there will be no charges for mishandling classified information, because of the President's inherent authority over classification. Both these issues are pretexts by the lying DOJ/FBI so that they could toss his house.

Show me in the Constitution where a previous CIC has the power to impose a process on a future CIC who has the exact same inherent powers as the current one. And, it's a goose chase. The PDA/Classified crap was just a pretext the lying DOJ/FBI/AG fed the Epstein judge in order to toss Trump's house. Not unlike all the pretextual lies they told FISC so that they could illegally spy on Trump. These guys lie without hesitation.

No one, but 38 State Legislatures speaking in concert has the power to impose a process on the CIC. And it doesn't matter. The lying DOJ/AG/FBI knows this and simply used this as pretext to get the Epstein judge to sign off on the warrant to toss Trump's on a "shoot the moon" that they can find something, anything, they can twist into another pretext for violent felony charges connected to J6 to squawk through the Lying Fake News Media in an attempt to rig the 2024 election. The problem for them, we already saw this trick with Russia Collusion and only idiots are fooled by them, at this point.

Had to search Melania's drawers for 'nuclear secrets'? Total BS. You know it, I know it, The American People know it.

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Just 84 days and we can begin the process of restoring these lying thug heavily armed agencies to the Rule of Law.

 

All he is going to do is drop the question into a search bar, are you helpless?

 

Ordinarily one should, but it's been my experience that they are rarely reviewed sufficiently to comment on and instead mined to rebut an argument put forth. It gets tedious having to debate in good faith when those you're debating are exhibiting intellectual dishonesty. They don't deserve my time looking for online support for claims made.

 

That's not how it works. The subpoena was the government asking nicely. Your choice is to either comply fully or face the consequences if you do not comply, like what happened to Steve Bannon. But it is obvious that the reason for the search warrant was because more documents were discovered to be there through the FBI's investigation and hence why the search warrant was issued and executed. That is the government saying we are not asking you nicely this time.

 

Do you know what it means to have a thorough search, right? Yes, they search everywhere in the address listed in the search warrant. And that is what happened. I have known criminals put their gun in their girlfriend's drawer, in the washer, underneath the house, buried in the yard of their house, and so forth. That is the standard operating procedure and every, and I do mean, every law enforcment agency that conducts searches at a residence does this sort of thing. It may be disconcerting, but the reality is that this is on Trump and no one else.

As for the laws I mentioned, I actually got from a law blog, which quoted the violations that I used, among other things. Here is the link. He listed all the violations Trump did with the Presidential Records Act, and then he listed and explained why these criminal statutes may apply to him.

From the link, who is a lawyer by the way, "There are several provisions of federal criminal law imposing liability on officials who violate the PRA and the FRA. 18 U.S.C. § 641 makes it a felony to, among other things, dispose of any record that belongs to the United States. 18 U.S.C. § 1361 makes it a felony to injure property of the United States.

More specific to records, 18 U.S.C. § 2071 makes it a felony to willfully and unlawfully remove, mutilate or destroy—or to attempt to remove, mutilate or destroy—any record deposited in any public office or with any public officer of the United States. That same provision also makes it a felony for anyone having custody of such records to remove, mutilate or destroy those records and imposes severe consequences: a violation requires the individual to “forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”

In addition to these provisions, 18 U.S.C. § 1505 makes it a felony for individuals to obstruct congressional investigations."

What I didn't do is not list all of them, but he does. Or will you start name-calling him too like a five-year-old who does not get his way?

 

Trump's team did comply at the June meeting. The agents left with documents and only later suggested more security be installed in the location where other documents were stored. This could have been repeated --- least intrusive process policy, don't ya know?

 

Fake News. They aren't criminal statutes.

These liars claimed they had to search Melania's drawers for nuclear secrets, Nobody buys their lies anymore. Even you don't.

84 days and we start crushing these lying rogue bastards with the Constitutional Rule of Law. They think they are "special" a consequence free criminal Stasi, well, and give them credit they've gotten away WITH A LOT. These lying bastards will get their just desserts, lawfully and constitutionally and with all the due process and constitutional protections that these filthy lying thugs steal from others.

Just 84 days and the restoration begins!

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BOXES of personal items were seized they even had to return his passport today. And THAT is the dispute what is covered under the NARA. And you also ignore that the PRA does NOT require all presidential documents be stored in a locked NARA warehouse in DC. They can be stored any number of places INCLUDING the home of a former President or his libraray (where LOTS of them are stored) if he has use for them. They only need to know where they are.

This was all done on the ruse of documents when in fact that was just the false premise so they could go in and grab ALL documents he had including personal including ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE documents.

 

"20 boxes in the raid. On top of the 15 boxes he gave them in Jan/Feb.

What would trump want all those classified documents for?"

Yes it does. 11 sets of classified documents would represent what percent of 35 boxes of documents? What percent would they be of ALL classified documents he had ever seen or been involved?

The question is what was that extremely low number of documents doing there, had they been declassified, were they active intelligence. Were they never not at the WH, under GSA control or stored at the secured Mir a Lago and not as the NARA and FBI had requested they be stored.

But then that is NOT what this is about is it......................you do agree this was just a ruse don't you?