FBI stats - Knives, Hands, Feet, and Fist, kill FAR more than 'assault weapons'

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  1. Goodoledays

    Goodoledays New Member

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    Very good points. Another problem is not the guns but the people of this country. They sound more and more like our gov't every day. They need to sit down and go over what the problem is and go from there. All the left want to do is ban guns and get rid of the 2nd Amendment.

    Start by setting up a crew to work with the gov't. A crew that has experience with guns and know them well. Let them inform the ones in gov't of what the problem is. Things like making it stricter to get your hands on these guns.

    We have computers now days making things easier. Set up with the police and gov't some type of identification program which would id the gun in a matter of minutes...not days. Have the guns tested at the time of sale and have some type of ballistics test made on each gun and put it into the computer program notifying the gov't who that gun belongs to so if ever used wrong making it easier to trace that gun in minutes. If the gun gets in the wrong hands they would still know who owned that gun and start from there.

    Banning guns isn't going to cure the ones that misuse guns. Its just like drugs...if the criminal wants them bad enough they are going to get them one way or the other. We need to work together on this not against each other.
     
  2. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Why didnt you quote the rest of it?

    "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here are a few facts about armed Americans:

    -In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.

    -Armed citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as the police do every year in this country (1,527 to 606).

    -A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.

    -According to the National Safety Council, with guns being used 2.5 million times a year in self defense against criminals, firearms are actually used more than 80 times more often to protect lives, rather than to take lives.

    -A 1979 Justice Department study entitled Rape Victimization in American Cities, concluded that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32 percent were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3 percent of the attempted rapes were actually committed.

    -Another Justice Department study found that 57 percent of felons agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running the police."
     
  4. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Your copy and paste post in every thread is getting old real old.
     
  5. NoPartyAffiliation

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    Thanks. I guess I WOULD ban the ownership of AR-15's, AK-47's, M-4's, G36's etc... except perhaps by military reserve or such. I just don't see the purpose of own such a gun. You certainly couldn't conceal such a weapon. if someone broke in the house, I'd get out my Glock. It would be much more practical and manuverable in close quarters. If I missed, the bullet would lodge in the wall. Same as on a street. If I had a C&C (which I wouldn't get but let's say I was a jeweler or something), it's not like I'd carry an AR-15 around. Not only impractical but it would attract exactly the kind of attention I'd want to avoid.
    Just as importantly, if I saw a guy in a theater with a gun and shot at him with an AR-15 or say any gun using a standard NATO 5.56 or 7.62, unless I hit bone, the round would likely go right through him and kill or injure anyone standing behind him for a hundred yards. If I missed, it would only get worse.
    What if there were three of us with such weapons firing at such a person?
    So while I don't think our country would ever tolerate an outright ban of weapons, I do see a common sense compromise. Tighter restrictions on who can sell, how weapons can be transporteded (except by those with a C&C, training and a photo ID), extreme penalties for carrying violations (imo our single biggest problem!) and the ban of military grade weapons that simply have no practical defense or hunting purpose.

    Notice I didn't say anyone disagreeing with me, hates America, the Constitution, is a Socialist etc...? We Independents are like that. :eek:)
     
  6. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    lol, you clearly know nothing about guns. Feel free to show me a "30-30" that has a magazine like that and is semi-automatic.
     
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    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    These aren't military firearms we are talking about. Sounds like you have no real argument.

    A gun that looks like a military gun is not necessarily a military gun.
     

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