FBI to Zimmerman Defense: No Access to our Files Dispite Judge's Order

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  1. Dasein

    Dasein New Member

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    Uh-oh. More bad news for O'Mara's fishing expedition. . .

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    Looks like the FBI wants Zimmerman to walk .
     
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    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Similar to the judge stating that Crump's and DeeDee's testimony wasn't relevant to the case............ lol :)
     
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    If the FBI won't give up the files, Zimmerman should move for dismissal of all charges on the grounds that exculpatory evidence is being withheld from his attorneys.
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    This .
     
  6. Blackrook

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    I have a hard time respecting a liberal who expresses approval when the government plays "hide the ball" with potentially exculpatory evidence.
     
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    What exculpatory evidence would that be?

    Link please.
     
  8. Blackrook

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    There is no way to know what exculpatory evidence is in the files, until the FBI gives them over.

    Are you actually rooting for the FBI on this?

    I thought liberals were great believers in due process.

    This is jack-boot government stomping on a criminal defendant's rights.

    As a liberal, you should be appalled.

    Why aren't you?
     
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    Why? FBI was not investigating the crime itself but the turd's background. They do not have to give Z the names of people who dropped a dime on him about who he diddled back home unless that information is entered into evidence at this trial. Dirtbag supporters of Z have been harrassing people already, and there is no reason that they need to know anything about people who were just interviewed but will not be introduced at trial?

    Now, if that shyster who has been wasting taxpayer dollars by filing BS motions to delay trial would get his head out of his butt and go to a federal court and file discovery there, he might look less the worthless sack of FAIL.

    What evil djinn told you the FBI had exculpatory evidence in the first place?
     
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    Liberals have abandoned their pretence to be in favor of due process rights for criminal defendants.

    They would rather see this man Zimmerman railroaded in a Communist-type show trial.

    Or maybe they should just lynch him on a tree and have done with it?

    Personally, I'm disgusted.

    Apparently, liberals have no principles at all.
     
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    FBI was not investigating the murder. They were investigating the murderer. They reached the conclusion that he was just a sociopath, but not a racist.

    MOM and Z best be careful what they wish for. If they try to get off on the basis of not having access to (*)(*)(*)(*) not relevant to the case, they may open the door for the prosecution to show the jury the evidence that Z diddled his cousin.
     
  12. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To save face, overreaching, racial "victimhood" obsessed progressive lynch mobbers cheer overzealous prosecution, government obstruction of justice, and the utter trashing of an American citizen's right to due process.

    while being among the very first to howl "police state!!"





    Mental illness. Like flys to feces, Progressivism attracts it.
     
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    I deleted my response to comply with forum rules. Enough said.
     
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    If Zimmerman is convicted, it will be overturned by a higher court because the libs have created a situation where it is impossible for him to get a fair trial anywhere in America. So ultimately, he will walk.
     
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    They weren't the only ones to reach a conclusion. You know who else reached a conclusion? A judge. A judge reached the conclusion that these items should be presented to the defense team.

    You say it's not "relevant" but there's another guy who says "I'll be the judge of that".
     
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    Are you working yet?

    George should probably plead diminished capacity.. That Sunday evening he did one grossly stupid thing after another.

    OMara has lost and is simply fishing.
     
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    You want George to walk because there are racists in the world?

    Of course there are racists... and MOST wouldn't dream of stalking and killing a black teen who was minding his own business.
     
  18. Sadanie

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    You know what seems sort of ironic in this whole story, is that the FBI after its initial inquiry has made it clear that this was NOT a hate crime. . .but their investigation is "ongoing," and if they even take in consideration all the "racial hate" that has been the characteristic of this case for the last year, and the MANY racial slurs thrown at Martin and his family by the Zimmerman supporter. . .it has sort of BECOME a "hate crime issue!"

    Not smart! All those slurs by the Zimmerman side calling the victim a "thug" and rejoicing at the death of this young man, based on the nastiest, most negative racial stereotypes may actually be affecting this case in ways we would not even have imagined!

    Good going guys. . .keep on spewing your hatred for the victim, his parents, his culture. . .and you may be dealing with more than you bargained for!
     
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    Strawman.

    I want ALL American citizen's right to a fair and judicious trial viciously protected.....not eroded into a populist, kangaroo court system where standards of due process hinge on national media's and the blogosphere's political agenda.

    is that too much to ask?
     
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    George will get a free trial.. NOTHING is impeding that.

    Do you care if George is a racist or not? I don't.
     
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    See, I see it totally differently! I see a gang of Zimmerman's defenders being overly RACISTS, and throwing a LOT of insults based on racial stereotypes that are not based on any factual information about the victim.

    And I am starting to believe that all that bashing and hateful trash thrown at the victim and his family may actually have a VERY negative impact on the case. . .and especially the jury.

    No decent person would continue to bash a dead kid's memory (without even any factual REASONS to do so), and to glamorize the killer. And some of the remarks that have been made by Trayvon's haters are absolutely SICK.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you heard the news?

    That "kangaroo" trial is initiated by the defense team! It seems that O'Mara has decided that the best chance Zimmerman has to be successful in his self-defense case is through the "public opinion" court. . .and they have launched an internet campaign to "spread the words," to sanctify Zimmerman's actions, and to demonize the victim.

    You don't believe me? Or maybe you do. ..it is obvious that some people here, as well as in all major public forums, are being subjected not to just "opinions" from members, but to a propaganda campaign to present Zimmerman in the best possible light (I admit. . .that's not good in the best of cases!) and to present the teenage victim as a gang member, a thug, a druggie, a violent person, much bigger and much "nastier" and more lethal with his bare hands than Zimmerman with his gun!

    The only problem is that SOME of us actually read the official forensic findings, and . . . we KNOW who is alive today and who was killed after less than 60 seconds "struggle!"

     
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    "free"?...or fair? It's certainly not "free" to defend against the state's charges.

    No....I don't see a racial component to this case....I see a media "manufactured" racial component to this case, and I see a media stoking it for the sake of aiding and abetting progressive agenda.

    And to this thread, I see Trayvon advocates cheering government's obstructing what may (or may not) be exculpatory evidence that refutes the manufactured racial component.

    all of that is an impediment to a fair trial.
     
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    Innocent until proven guilty. Do you support such a notion?
     
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    Free and fair.. It doesn't matter whether George is a racist or not.. We know that he a killer who is too stupid to wait for the police or identify himself.. and thinks rolling around in wet grass is life threatening.
     

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