FEA data regarding WTC1

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, pot meet kettle.
     
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    just because you dont like the answers and it does not fit the debunker fantasy world is hardly justifies what you said.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's not to like about the truther totally inane fantasies. Everyone needs a good laugh.
     
  4. genericBob

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    and you consider the Bazant paper to be "proof" of anything?
    really? I see some activities that tend to totally discredit the
    whole process of "peer review" and status based on having a
    PHD.....
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How would you know, you can't even read specs or do simple math.
     
  6. genericBob

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    I can read specification well enough
    to understand that max speed specified for
    the Boeing airliner is 414mph @<1000ft
    and if you have PROOF that an airliner can
    actually be flown and controlled at speeds in
    excess of 150 mph over this max speed and
    at <1000ft altitude, please present it.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like I said before, you have yet to be able to read specs. Top published speed for a 767-200 is 565 mph. Design is 1.2 times that before flutter may or may not appear. The plane had a quartering tail wind. See if you can do the math.

    http://www.airlines-inform.com/commercial-aircraft/Boeing-767-200.html
     
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    I leave it up to the random lurker & reader of this forum
    to make up their own minds based on the available data.
    The question at hand is: is the max speed for an airliner
    lower at lower altitudes, or can an airliner be flown at >500 mph
    near sea level and not be into totally "uncharted territory" ?

    I have seen specifications sufficient to convince me,
    and people will just either have to KNOW aviation science
    well enough to have the answer for themselves, or trust
    in what they can get not only off the web, but see your
    friendly local library, there is some valuable INFORMATION
    to be had. Good Luck......
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    LOL, thanks for proving you cannot read specs or do simple math. You also have no clue what airspeed is. I suggest you actually do some reading for a change. Good luck.
     
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    You make assumptions about what you believe I know
    and what the state of my education is.
    I submit to this forum that you are trying to push an
    agenda and that being the idea that it is somehow
    not only possible, but plausible that an airliner could
    be flown at >500 mph @ <1000 ft altitude because
    if it can be shown conclusively that at the very least
    the flying in excess of 500 mph at near sea level, is
    out in totally uncharted territory, then it calls into question
    the official story, because at lower speeds the "FLT175"
    airliner would not have sufficient energy to guarantee
    penetration of the WTC ( if indeed the speed alleged is
    truly a guarantee of penetration ) The official story hinges
    on so many bits that as yet are totally unsupported, and
    this is why I encourage people to do some research on
    their own, If I were to offer up links, people would then
    create a game of "my experts are better than your experts"
    and it would be useless, I can only hope that there are people
    in this world who will take the time to look into this important
    issue, why did the towers & 7 just fall down as they did?
    Why is it that so little aircraft bits have been recovered and
    with that, there has been no accounting for the quantity of bits
    no inventory, no cataloging of what was found, where is it?
    and what are they hiding?

    Read up on what JFK said about secrecy.

    have a nice day

    : )
     
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    Specs, simple math, physics. What do you have?
     
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    You have only named some bits,
    but do any of these bits prove that
    an airliner can be flown at 590 mph
    @ < 1000 ft altitude?
     
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    exactly what constitutes a "reliable source"?
     
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    Question for all who read this forum,
    Why should the "total collapse" scenario be the ONLY
    possibility under consideration here?

    With at least equal probability of happening,
    why not this bit?
     
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    Because, by point of fact: the buildings collapsed.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The very specs for the aircraft itself.
     
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    The major question here is did that "collapse" have help, from explosives.... or?


    The Boeing web-page specifies the top speed of their airliners at 35,000 ft, Flying an airliner at 590 mph @ < 1000 ft altitude is impossible.
     
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    And the evidence answers: No, the collapse needed no "help from explosives".

    Prove it. Show your math.
     
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    You have yet to prove it is impossible when reality has already proven it is possible.
     
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    What proof is there that the picture in post #66 isn't as valid as any other possible scenario? Where is your PROOF that the building should "Collapse" as was observed?
     
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    Because it did.
     
  21. Hannibal

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    The building did not collapse as the animation in post #66. The animation is fantasy.
     
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    The building "collapse" happened with or without explosives
    and the question is, could it have happened in the way that
    it happened without explosives, and it could not have happened
    in the way that it did, without explosives.

    Total destruction of anything is an anomaly and as such
    the total destruction of WTC1, 2 & 7 is obviously the work
    of human intervention.
     
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    Again, yes: Humans were piloting the planes that led to the failure and collapse of the buildings they struck. Obviously.

    As observed via the evidence, the collapses happened without the use of explosives.
     
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    what about the evidence leads you to the conclusion that no explosives were used?
     
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    The fact that no evidence of explosives was found.
     

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