FEMALE ATHLETES DESERVE TO LOSE

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  1. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

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    We must learn from our past, but denying the reality of today is foolish.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you ARE the judge!
     
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    Unless you're married to a woman, you don't have one.
    Really? You're comparing a guy cutting his equipment off to a change of hairstyle?

    Really??
    Do cattle consent to getting slaughtered and eaten?
    boogeyman invented by the devil so as to divert attention from his own murderous designs, in case you didn't know.
     
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    They don't all get whacked but then they are all whacky.
     
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    yguy Well-Known Member

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    Swell, thanks for nothing.
     
  6. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

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    Yawn*
    Stopped reading after your first line. In the eyes of the state my marriage is recognized as valid. I couldn’t care less what you or any god might think.
     
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    And it could just as reasonably recognize your marriage to a dog as valid. Enjoy.
     
  8. DaveBN

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    Assuming it planned to give dogs the ability to sign legal contracts I suppose it could. Do you expect that to happen?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the state is who rules on contracts... I don’t see animals being able to consent in the near future however.

    Thus, same sex marriage is just as valid as yours (if you have one that is)

    You should really change your signature btw, it is in stark contrast to your beliefs.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Perhaps for sports that are separated by gender, setting a maximum threshold for testosterone in a woman's category would be helpful. The whole idea of gender separation in sport's is because of the physical differences that can affect performance, not just your body parts.
     
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    You seem to be looking for a reason to feel the victim. I have clearly stated what people do in their own private life is OK. I do not harp on about being a heterosexual male. I just get on with my life. Does this mean that YOU should be picked on or victimised or not respected? Have I said that? Of course not. To cite the old adage - I have gay friends, two of whom are married. They asked my wife to read a poem at their wedding ceremony. They disapprove of overt display of "this is who we are, look at us we are a gay couple"??? they despise such attention, victim grabbing.
    I don't know why you can not simply see my point. I have a friend who 2 billion % partakes in watching Formula 1 racing and spends thousands a year on her garden, she is an expert gardener - if she sought for me to have to grow Roses then wanted it as law - I must grow Roses?? I would fuff her off writ large and concrete my garden in spite. But she does not. So I like being her friend and we get on fine. I dont insist she does 3 rounds per day sparring after a 3 mile run.
    I am surprised you do not see that the radical style LGBTQ - et al. are getting right up the noses of people and thus they induce hate if not hate, they induce boycotting and avoidance from people.
    I dont like Cabbage but that does not mean I want to destroy all things coloured Green. This is the link you are creating that does not exist in my head at all. I could not give a flying fuff if you or anyone else sit all day trying to teach a dog how to lip read. But dont expect me to have to include it in my schedule.
     
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  12. Polydectes

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    It would be discrimination to not let women compete with other women. Men and women are not the same. That's biological reality.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well it's discrimination not to treat men and women equal.... but I do agree, most including me accept discrimination like this in sports as it more fair - but legally it's still gender discrimination, so it does raise some legal questions, one most including me wish were never raised
     
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    Hardly necessary, as an official can be empowered by statute - or, for that matter, by judicial edict - to affirm its consent by attesting that, having been asked if it took DaveBN as its lawfully wedded husband, wife or whatever, it wagged its tail.
    Doesn't matter. What matters is that if it does, you have no grounds for objecting.
    I would certainly have pause to refllect if someone of your caliber thought otherwise.
     
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    wrong, no one else is allowed to marry their pet, IF they were and you said only black people can't.. then you would have a point

    the problem was a black man could not marry a white women, but white man could

    or

    a male could marry a woman, but a woman could not do the same

    all or none, you can ban all marriage, but you can't just ban it just for inter-racial or intra-gender reasons
     
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    How is putting a woman in a fighting ring with a man treating her equally? She is way out matched.
    I think it's called discerning when you treating two different things is different. it's called discrimination when you treating two very similar things as different.

    Women and men are not equally matched with regard to physical ability. It's not discrimination to take notice of that its discerning
     
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    legally it's gender discrimination, but as I said, some including me, feel this issue is different and it will have to be worked out in the courts
     
  18. Polydectes

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    No it isn't. Discrimination is treating two things that are the same as though they are different.

    First gender doesn't come into the discussion at all it is irrelevant. It's based on sex. and the sexes are different there for treating them differently is not discrimination it is discernment.
     
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    people used that argument to try to segregate blacks at one time too

    we are talking about gender, the sex of the person... same thing
     
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    So you think the difference between a black man and a white man is the same as the difference between a man and a woman?

    I would disagree. Women are fundamentally different on a biological level. First and foremost they have uteruses and because of their sex they do not produce as much testosterone as men.

    Do black men produce more testosterone thin Hispanic men? If so how significant is the difference?
     
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    Okay you have to forgive me some people say that gender and sex are two different things.

    I didn't realize you were using it in that context.
     
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    if you actually read my posts, you would understand my position on this - I have said in all the posts you replied too, that in this case I support discrimination based on gender for this instance in sports only, but I realize this will have to be handled in the courts - as it brings up new legal questions that have not been addressed before

    now there are some sports I would not support gender discrimination as well - it's a tough issue
     
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    again it is not discrimination to treat two different things as different. That's discernment.
    Okay, not letting men compete against women is not discrimination against men. However allowing men to compete against women is discrimination against women.
     
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    they are both humans, trying to say blacks and whites or males and females are different so segregation\discrimination is ok, is a legal issue, in most cases I would be against discrimination, some sports though I can see where this is valid - like I said, it's a tough issue to address and will most likely be handled by the courts
     
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    yeah, I try to say "gender" as some people confuse the word "sex" with sexual preference
     
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