Feminist activist in Iran sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab.

Why do democrats continue to excuse the bad behavior of the Iranians? How does their tolerance even have merit?

 

I'm not here to be your teacher to go answer all kinds of questions

You're harassing me with pointless questions.

 

Seems more the GOP can't get over the idea that the coup the US made against the democratically elected government of Iran has been undone, in a humiliating way. Get over it already.

 

Dress codes are expressions of our desires, as are all social and moral codes. Dress codes change as our desires change. This is called evolution.

A society whose rulers impose strict dress codes, or strict social and moral codes, isolating itself from outside influences and aggressively protecting itself from inside rebellious attitudes, is basically trying to put an end to human evolution. Not going to happen.

On the other hand, looking at the mess the Middle East is today, one could question if an evolution that brought us religious bigots, megalomaniac dictators, and deadly sectarian divides, is worth saving.

Beirut, Lebanon

 

This rationale could have come straight out of the Jim Crows laws in the Southern US in the early part of the last century.

Iranian women are segregated in buses and other public transportation, banks, bakeries, sporting events and so on. Islam is great for men but hell on women and I expect it will be women and the younger educated people, rather than Iranian 'men', who will be leading the next revolution.

 

Are you talking again of 1953? Seems it's the Iranians who should 'get over it'. You don't like your theocracy?

 

Iranian women are not segregated in any of these places, except buses where there is a women's section and in football stadium (where the ban is being lifted).

p.s.
The women's section in the city buses in Tehran are designed to make working class and poor women in Iran use the buses comfortably without having to be shoved and pushed and robed around by overcrowded buses. The rule has nothing to do, except in propaganda imagery, with Jim Crow laws and if the rule was abolished, many of these poor women would have a hard time going to work.

 

Any Muslim is free to preach from the Koran anywhere in the Democracies. That's not the case in Muslim run countries like Iran.

 

That all sounds familiar. Their only thoughts are for the poor women, huh? They'd prefer to be among their own kind? https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...QIHZKtApUQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=IjS-65j8vDO5EM:

 

The ban is being lifted only because FIFA is demanding it, not from any internal enlightenment within Iran. https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-fifa-demands-allow-women-into-soccer-stadiums/30104333.html

 

If it wasn't for the reason I mentioned, Iranian women would be segregated in many other places where they are not, including other buses that aren't the city buses that are segregated. One level above buses, is the metro in Iran. Here, you have both a mixed compartment and a women's only compartment. And then you taxis and all sorts of other transportation, none which are segregated.
Mixed compartment in the metro


Women only compartment

 

The US still can't get over it that their puppet got removed, their embassy got raided, they didn't win backing up Saddam Husseins WMD war, while Iran took in Iraq in their sphere of influence.

nice

 

Iran had already lifted the ban in several matches last year and had announced that women would be allowed to watch national team matches. After the recent incident with the tragic self immulation of the "Blue Girl", FIFA is putting pressure on Iran to allow women in the stadium for league games sooner than Iran might have on its own. Otherwise, the pressure on the issue started completely from within and this has been the subject of various fights between the government (even going back to the days of Ahmadinejad, who was the first to overturn the ban before being reversed by Iran's Supreme Leader) and the clergy for some time.

 

Yes, the "Blue Girl" certainly helped move Iran closer to the 20th Century. She should have a statue in her honor once the Theocracy is properly sent to the "dustbin of history".

Substitute "Blacks Only" or "Whites Only" rather than "Women Only" and you may better understand how Iran looks to the outside democracies.

 

^^
Not Iran

 

Whatever it looks like to you, these are often extra accommodation for women. Its like claim that if you had a compartment that allowed both blacks and whites (not only whites), and one just for blacks (no whites) it was discriminating against blacks!

 

It looks to me like "Women Only". What does that mean to you?

 

It means women only, but the other section allows both women and men. Not only men. So women have an extra accommodation just for them.
https://www.travelphotoreport.com/2012/10/06/iran-women-only/
Iran: Women only

 

And Blacks had extra accommodation just for them.

 

I am sure their problem was the "Whites Only" part.

Anyway, in the area of attending football matches (segregation for other spectator sports either was never enforced or has been lifted), I am totally on the side of those who oppose the segregation and are working to remove its last vestiges. Here the segregation is real, although there are some valid concerns that need to be addressed as well given the rowdy and profane language prevalent in league games in particular.

 

No they don’t. They stone and hang people and have invented machine to cut peoples fingertips for the littlest of offenses.

On the other hand, a devoted Muslims they all are.

 

It’s against the teaching. They use scimitars to do masses.

 

Indeed. Just as soon as Islam can force itself out of the 7th century and into the 8th

 

And they go to prison if convicted. In Iran, you cannot convict they State.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ue-girl-shines-light-on-womens-rights-in-iran

I am sympathetic to this cause, mainly because I don't see it as being driven by any nefarious outside agendas even if some outsiders (recently the European parliament) have tried to latch on this and cases relating to the women's protests on hijab to promote agendas that reflect the regrettable ignorance of the 'green parties' in Europe in forging an alliance with a thoroughly despicable, terrorist, treasonous and lying cult known as MEK (aka National Council of Resistance). But to put it in simple terms: I hope Iran fully complies with what FIFA has asked. The same way that I am actually sympathetic when it comes to efforts to see Iran stop interfering with its athletes competing against other athletes, including those from Israel. In both cases, while I understand the other side of the argument, I ultimately don't think these are issues that should be handled by any institution except the elected government. On the former, if allowing women in stadiums will also force the government to take more effective means to clean up hooliganism in Iranian stadiums, and the regular chants containing profanity, that is actually good. On the latter, Iran is not going to win or lose the real battles that count against Israel by forcing our sporting organizations to run afoul of the existing regulations in their respective fields nor by putting the burden of carrying these policies on the shoulders of the hopes and dreams of athletes who have trained hard and find themselves under pressure to throw matches to avoid athletes from Israel. If facing off against Israel is truly such a blow to Iran's message of resistance and Iran's posture in not recognizing the legitimacy of Israel, then the proper course would be for Iran to withdraw from organizations and sporting events which do not allow Iran to openly practice what it preaches. Otherwise, the proper course is to let Iranian athletes compete against anyone they end up meeting in their sports.
https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-ba...ng-competition-against-israelis/30171243.html