Finland says debate on NATO membership 'will change' after Russian invasion

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  1. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    This is patently false. The finns have tolerated the Russians ever since WWII and in no way will they ever trust Russians.
     
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    Bingo. Spot-on.
     
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    I'm not really familiar with that affair, but it looks like it was a defense system against the kind of ballistic missiles that Russia has been hitting Ukraine with. Defensive, not offensive.
     
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    You need to read up on your history before making such elementary mistakes here in PF.
     
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    Seeing is believing with that mob.
     
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    I am not sure he perceives NATO as a threat, but rather, as an insult.
     
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    Not false. Russia had much better relations with Finland, than for example with the US for the last 60 years.
     
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    Finland can and should apply for NATO membership and I am pretty sure that that democratic nations pretty much meets all of the requirements already and could be fast-tracked.
     
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    Kind of like how rapists usually have a better relationship with the people they raped than they do to the cops chasing them down the road for having raped their victims in the first place.

    Gee, what a apropos way to think of Russia.
     
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    No mistake here.
     
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    Your comment is not relevant and your opinion is clearly biased.
     
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    And he should just keep on taking it up the ass until the end of his miserable life.

    Not that I am necessarily against anal sex, but that is a discussion for somewhere and someplace else.

    And for those who may think that such phrasings are homophobic (and sometimes they are), I will just gently remind that women also have asses and indeed, a great many of them just love anal sex.

    Just saying.
     
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    I think that this is a very cogent point, and well written.

    I was often told by a colleague that the difference between intent and perception is more often than not the difference between success and failure.
     
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    Never.

    But the putinsuckers of the world will never want to hear that answer.
     
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    This is also why US President Biden is holding the russian expulsion from the SWIFT system in reserve and hasn't gone there quite yet, because although I am 100% for the punitive measure, I do concede that it would have adverse effects on individuals outside of Russia who have had nothing to do with this. And furthermore, if the Russian stock market completely crashes in the next week or two, it may never get back on its feet again and you know, I'm totally cool with that.
     
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    And I will again remind that no people on the face of the earth are as toughened up against the russian bully as are the Finns.

    Putin could easily lose 500,000-1,000,000 soldiers in a protracted conflict with Finland. I consider Finland to be the Iwo Jima of Europe in terms of almost unbeatable resistance.

    Were Putin to even consider this folly would only serve to prove how incredibly stupid the little man with the stiff right arm is.
     
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    Trump has dangerously crossed the line over into "I am not only a traitor, but I will trumpet it out loud" territory.

    And most of his ardent death cult followers, most of whom don't even know what the bell-curve is, will lap up every word and schwoooops, all of a sudden, the GOP will soon be playing this anthem at the Republican National Convention:

     
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    This is true, but they did not do it willingly.
     
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    The Ukrainians may have not yet had the battle-hardening experiences with the Russians like the Finns repeatedly had in the 1930s and 1940s (it happened more than once), but let's not forget that the largest boot-camp for the then-Soviet army was located in: Ukraine. This is also why so many nukes were stationed in the Ukraine.

    Many, many, many thousands of Russian soldiers are very likely to come home in body-bags because all of those 70 year old babuschkas in every one-horse town also know how to fire a shotgun or throw a molotov cocktail.

    One cannot overemphasize how deeply Putin has ****ed up this time.

    And I for one will never, ever forgive him.
     
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    I'm not speaking for @Pro_Line_FL here, but, his comparison relates to your comment that Finland and Russia had good relationships for half a century. Dahmer was a pedophile that kidnapped your boys and cooked and ate their body parts after killing them.

    Basically, I read his post as "All the warm fuzzies can stop being warm fuzzies on a dime." and "outward appearances don't necessarily reflect what is really going on inside."
     
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    The only good invader is a dead invader.

    It is entirely possible that the Russian people will turn on Putin if this thing goes on too long.

    Mussolini experienced this at the hands of his own people after he had raped the nation for years and years.
     
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    Well, duh. That is the point of such an alliance. Deterrence can be a wonderful thing.

    And there was no reason on earth for Russia to "feel" threatened, until Russia invaded another sovereign land.

    But Russia and Byelorußland will pay greatly for their war crimes.
     
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    WTF


    Can you please formulate that in real English, you know, which is what the rules of this English-speaking forum dictate?
     
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