First direct observation of carbon dioxide's greenhouse effect at Earth's surface

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  1. orogenicman

    orogenicman New Member

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    Confirmed at last. All they have to do now is reproduce the results at many more locations. Any deniers care to respond?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150225132103.htm

    More at the link.

    Also, a video:

    [video=youtube;5yq1MFUQ0fI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yq1MFUQ0fI[/video]
     
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    milorafferty Banned

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    Is this the same Scientists that faked the temperature readings? :roll:
     
  3. orogenicman

    orogenicman New Member

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    I have noticed over the years that the amount of actual science and scientific equipment being used and conducted by people who make comments like the one above is zero. Why don't you contact the scientists who wrote the paper referenced in my OP and ask them yourself?
     
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    Since no scientists faked any temperature readings, the answer is obviously not.
     
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    They had to put it out on Video so the denialists could follow it - too many in the denialist camp cannot read!!

    (I am a baaaaaad girl!)

    Look anyone who has watched a basic science primer (BBC has plenty) will know that CO2 effects are indisputable - unfortunately we could get a hand written note from God and the denialists would still dispute it
     
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    Southern Ocean gets better at absorbing CO2...
    :cool:
    Southern Ocean shows unexpected revival
    Sat, Sep 12, 2015 - The Southern Ocean, which acts as one of the natural world’s most effective sponges for absorbing carbon dioxide, is showing signs of an unexpected revival in its ability to do so, according to scientists.
     
  7. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it, that there are no movements, no one in gov't talking about world wide land management, the massive planting of co2 loving flora, since man has cut down half of the trees on this planet, since he has been here?

    If we had produced zero co2 from fossil fuels, but cut down most of the lungs of this planet, our flora, would we still be suffering from co2 induced climate change? I think so.

    For me personally, until gov't and scientists start to seriously talk about land management, the ending or rain forest, deforestation, and actually address this, I am not taking the co2 alarmists seriously at all, for they are not taking it seriously. The only way these jackwagons want to address it, is by taxing carbon. LOL. Something stinks here folks. For if we cannot redistribute wealth from the west to Africa, then these jackwagons are not concerned about co2 and climate change. If this does not bother a climate change person, then they are not concerned about addressing co2 either. SO, why should people like me listen to their bull fecal matter? They are not serious people. Unless they are just serious about redistributing wealth to Africa, which by the way is a scam that allows a few elites to dip their pelican sized beaks, just like the mafia, into that flow of dollars leaving here and going to Africa. Then when what is left gets to Africa, the money goes to MNCs, that build infrastructure, so that they can now move there, exploit the poor Africans for cents on the dollar labor, in order to max out their profits, as they send those cheaply made goods back to America to sell.

    Again, how can you look at the climate change people with any seriousness?
     
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    The "Talk" is all about raising Taxes.

    Once the government taxes the energy at their discretion, the public knows nothing anymore about it.
    The public just pays the energy bills.

    These funds get Generalized.
    How they will be spent is the same way SS was instituted.
    No one knows where that money is when needed.
     
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    I don't really care anymore about global warming. I used to, not now though. There are way to many people in the world and some of us need to be killed off. Obviously, we will not do so voluntarily so let Mother Earth just shake a few billion of us off. It will be a miserable time for most of us, but we had a good run.
     
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    if you believe this then why are you not living a fossil fuel free life...walk or ride a bike made of natural material only..solar electricity 24 hours a day only...no airplane trips..no bus rides or train rides...just walk and then i might be impressed...t
     
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    Because we do not have to

    This is a strawman response
     
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    'Hothouse Earth' risks even if CO2 emissions slashed...
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    Climate change: 'Hothouse Earth' risks even if CO2 emissions slashed
    6 August 2018 - It may sound like the title of a low budget sci-fi movie, but for planetary scientists, "Hothouse Earth" is a deadly serious concept.
     
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    The evidence mounts every day. And it is all mutually supportive. People who don't understand how science arrives at facts regarding such complicated matters don't understand that they do so by considering the preponderance of evidence from multiple methods and fields of science. While someone may respond that this one nugget of evidence does not prove the accepted theories by itself, that someone would betray their lack of understanding of the process by which scientists have arrived at the overwhelming consensus regarding climate change.
     
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    that's an embarrassing lack of thought by you....
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    these "people" are vastly under educated in science and logic...they think politics is a team sport, and you follow your team captain regardless if he's an idiot...the idiot team leader needs to differentiate himself from the other team so he can get an elected position/job with a pension...it doesn't matter that what he/she claims is BS it's different from what the other team claims is true and that's all they require to get their team groupies to vote for them....this is the down side of democracy, even the hopelessly uninformed team cheerleader has a vote...
     
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    Well...and to be maybe a bit harsh...people don't like feeling stupid. When they do 10 minutes of research and find agreeable material by paid liars, and then hear a person in a position of leadership regurgitate the same lies, it is affirming and soothing. It makes people double down on stupid.
     
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  17. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    again that's the downside of people thinking politics is a team "sports" game they vote for blindly for "their" team regardless if it's position is idiotic...I don't get people identifying with a political party as their team to follow like mindless zealots right or wrong
     
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    I think it's misleading to point to one line of evidence and say it's "confirmed at last". If that were the standard for "confirmed at last" then this happened decades ago when scientists directly observed that the troposphere warmed while the stratosphere cooled. That is *the* smoking gun evidence for GHG warming. No other mechanism bar none can do that. It was predicted that this would occur 80 years ago and has been continually observed for at least 40 years.
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    fake news of coarse as trump has already pointed out that climate change is Chinese hoax...and that's what the mindless trumpet minions are going with
     
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