Florida shooting: Parkland school student calls Donald Trump a 'piece of s***' over tweet

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Was my question to tough for you to answer?
     
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    What question?
     
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    Your rights are already absolute, but they don't include being armed with a tank, bazooka, and sarin gas. You can be restricted from carrying assault rifles into the Superbowl or a courtroom.
     
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    School? Perhaps. Bus stop? Of course not.

    I taught high school and adults for years and I can assure you the vast majority of teachers would have nothing to do with carrying firearms into a school. Many would quit rather than carry a weapon. We're already making the job less attractive by making schools a dangerous place. It has been a problem in inner city schools for decades.

    Securing schools is the cost of doing business for having our gun laws. Time to pay up.
     
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    Canada controls handguns.
     
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    The one I asked that you choose not to answer.
    Scroll back and try again. I know you can do that. :)
     
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    Given that the school already had armed guards I don't think that matters. They can't be everywhere. I am not sure what would help. There is not going to be significant increases in gun regulation in the US and even if there was there are too many guns and the US state lacks the capacity to enforce them. Many drugs are illegal in the US. Does anyone think you can't get them if you want?

    The real question is why are such attacks increasing even as the level of violence in the US is declining (its declining I believe for demographic reasons, the same reason it increased in the sixties. Young males commit most gun violence, and the percent of young males is declining).
     
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    Anyone in Canada who wants a handgun can obtain one easily. Ditto the rest of the world.
     
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    And yet Sarin gas was used to conduct a mass slaughter in Japan.
    Did the Japanese government forget to ban Sarin?
     
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    STRAW MAN ALERT!

    We can issue permits to carry weapons that we specifically deny to felons, gang members, senile seniors, children, and the mentally ill. We can make the penalties nasty for people possessing without a permit. We can limit the permits to people who show basic competence with firearms. Older children can have permits limited to rural areas.
     
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    Not so sure, Anti.

    They could have interviewed him, taken his weapons, had him analyzed, and somehow removed from the streets. The guy made public threats against school children so it seems possible he has broken laws somewhere.
     
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    Perhaps they would have had other sarin attacks if possessing Sarin was legal?

    Want to be nasty? Use KCN. You can make it, possess it, and kill people real dead, real quick. Chemistry 101.
     
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    Yes, abortion costs many lives each year.
     
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    It makes sense to normal people. ********* and moan about how this young girl talks, yet you give Trump a pass. If you still don't understand, ask your momma to explain it.
     
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    Wmds are different. You do not defend your country destroying it. You can own grenade launchers and binary explosives etc. If you want.
     
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    They could have interviewed him, taken his weapons, had him analyzed, and somehow removed from the streets.

    I have great doubts they could have done so in Florida. He had broken no law and he could simply have claimed he was joking if they brought the threats forward. I am not sure, before any attack took place, that any Florida judge would have ordered him to lose his rights. The right to have a gun is taken very seriously here and I don't know if he met the requirements for losing your right to bear arms.

    Even if they could have, and I doubt it, they lack the manpower to do this generally and resistance to a federal agency taking someone's arms away would be very high.
     
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    Not true. Almost impossible to get one here. You'd have to be pretty high up in the criminal underworld to know a gun smuggler.

    Outside of being strapped to a policeman, I don't even think I've seen one in this country.
     
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    There is a murder ban in Florida - the death penalty can be imposed.
     
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    What?
     
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    The Canadian gun ban is not any more effective than the UK ban.

    "Philip Etienne - a former undercover policeman who has
    bought dozens of guns during his career with the Met, as
    detailed in his book, The Infiltrators - believes the problem
    is growing rapidly because criminals increasingly feel
    pressurised into carrying firearms.

    There are so many guns in circulation that, to the people
    selling them, they are just another commodity, just a way
    of making money. That's the business they're in and it
    wouldn't occur to them to do anything else. When I was in
    the police force, we concentrated on taking them out of
    circulation rather than making arrests. If we heard
    someone had guns for sale we would just go and buy as
    many of them as we could. But today there are so many
    out there, I don't think we could keep up.' Unfortunately,
    Etienne looks to be right."
    THIS IS LONDON, By Danny Brown, 2/28/02.
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynam...?in_review_id=509803&in_review_text_id=473066

    Guns, like drugs, alcohol, human beings, and every other kid of contraband can be easily smuggled over borders.
     
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    I am not surprised that you prefer not to answer. ;-)
     
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    So anyway, here's what she said:



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    Huh?
     
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    I’d only cut her slack if she blamed Democrats and Obama first. Aiming at Trump just makes her another future clueless leftist always interested in forcing others to live how she feels fit.

    She should have condemned EVERY politician because it takes them, NOT Trump to create a bill.
     

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