Fourth Circuit Rules Against Prayer Before Legislative Meetings.....

It is ludicrous to quote Thomas Jefferson on this topic, since he raged against the Supreme Court declaring it had ANY authority over the President or legislative branch of government whatsoever. It was an unconstitutional power federal courts conveyed to themselves claiming English law (ie "common law") gave them the authority, when the USA had just fought a revolutionary war for independence specifically to be free of English law.

 

At least you are willing to disavow your own message as a "non-sequitur."

 

Clearly, President Obama should have been enjoined by a federal court from continuing to do so.

 

"I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises. This results not only from the provision that no law shall be made respecting the establishment or free exercise of religion, but from that also which reserves to the states the powers not delegated to the United States. Certainly, no power to prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegated to the General Government. It must then rest with the states, as far as it can be in any human authority."

Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Miller, 1808.

Jefferson recognized the prohibition ONLY applies to the federal government and not to states.

 

Yup. They can fix this in a jiffy and then get going on everything else that needs fixing.

RUMBLINGS: Supreme Court Justice Kennedy Will RETIRE ‘Any Minute Now’

 

Me: Can I walk into any courtroom and start giving a political speech?

You betcha.

 

I agree itbis ridiculus these government officials believe that have to use a government setting to engage in their private religious ceremony. And I'm acting like a conservative and not engaging personal religious faith of some into our government function, thus giving them respect, and keeping government out of those religious faiths.

 

Just read that the forth is actually the most liberal court now, that would explain their unicorns and stardust understanding of the constitution.

 

So, no free exercise thereof.

 

Sure on your own time and your own dime, not as a government official in a government surrounding.

 

No one one the left appears to complain when democrats do it.

 

Yeah! No MONKEY ****** is gonna tell you when and how to pray. M I rite mr grand dragon?

Seroiusly though you disgust me sir.

 

Oh my , I care .

 

Of course not. Care requires shame.

 

Are you a Democrat ? Hillary voter? Talk about shame !

 

I'm not on the left

 

BAKE MY CAKE OR SUFFER THE PENALTIES: As Ed Driscoll reported yesterday, the D. James Kennedy Ministry is suing SPLC, GuideStar, and Amazon over “Hate” labeling. I’ve had a chance to go through the Complaint, and my view is the defamation claims may have enough merit to proceed, the Trademark claims are weak, but the most interesting thing — and what may be the most impacting aspect of this suit — is the claim under the Civil Rights Act, 42 U.S.C. 4 2000(a), which the Plaintiffs point out:

“Because the Amazon Defendants are operating a public accommodation(s), it is a violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, specifically 42 U.S.C. § 2000(a), for the Amazon Defendants to deny the Ministry the privileges and advantages of the AmazonSmile program on the basis of the Ministry’s religion and the beliefs that are inherent to that religion.”

Now here’s where it gets interesting. If the Commerce Clause gives government the authority to trump a businessman’s personal beliefs, even if couched as a First Amendment expression, then the same logic that requires Christian fundamentalists to bake “gay” wedding cakes against their beliefs ought to mean that Amazon has no right to deprive the Ministry of a public accommodation because they “don’t like” that Church’s view on gay marriage.

I’m betting if Amazon doesn’t settle, that this issue is headed to the Eleventh Circuit, and maybe even SCOTUS. This is right in Justice Gorsuch‘s wheelhouse. Stay tuned.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/the-hidden-religious-freedom-clash/

 

So just eliminate the program.