Full Support for the Working Class in Canada ,Global General Strike May !st 2012 Glob

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  1. philxx

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    The Caterpillar strike should be a warning of the Global onslaught on Wages and Conditions.

    50% wage cuts from $35 an hour to $16.50 as well as cuts to medical coverage .

    What I would suggest and will fight for is a Global General Strike against Transnational Corporations like Caterpillar Global.BP Global and the Governments of Austerity that support them Politically.

    May 1 is International Workers Day ,its the day that commemorates when the Working Class stood up Globally for the 8 hour day and International human Unity against Capitialism .

    All democratically mined ,all defenders of the Rights of the Working Class MAJORITY,all Occupy Movement supporters spread the word and campaign for the Global General Strike against Depression and WAR,May 1st 2012 we have a Globally intergrated orgainising force BTW,
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/cate-j06.shtml

    This assault is the call to struggle ,there is no going back action of a Global character is the Political Question for all Democratically and Socialist minded a UNITED GLOBAL FROUNT AGAINST DEPRESSION is humanities salvation.

    We have much to fight against and the Political capitial to do it.

    This assault is coming to a Nation Near you.

    50% Wage cuts ,Lockouts,destitute Poverty,Destruction of Democracy,

    Everything for those that do nothing =Capitialists

    Nothing for those that produce everything =Working Class.

    :gun::sun::date:

    Lets make a list,
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/nige-j06.shtml
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/coop-j06.shtmlhttp://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/pers-j05.shtmlhttp://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/pers-j03.shtml



    Its good to know the real Global Situation it makes sense of the National madhouse,

    Scientific thought goes from the General to the particular only to generalise again back to the Particular through PRACTICE.

    Science without the practical conclusions isn't science as ,science changes the Reality not 'Faith Thunkin".
     
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    Can any Market advocates ,tell us how the 50% cut in wages is a "fair"thing when in 2008 when the Markets determined Lehman Bros had to go was INSOLVENT,BANKRUPT ,and by all MARKET NORMS,should no longer exist.

    Then the Government of Capitialist's "Regulated the financial MARKET'but when it comes to the price of labour on the Market well it 50% cut to the living wages of struggling workers.

    The working Class has nothing to lose anymore its fight or go under .Revolution or "depression revisited" under Capitialist Government.

    But humanity already knows where Global Depressions led that would be WW so we had depression in 1890's =WW1,1930's=WW2

    Depression Started in 2008 =World socialist Revolution or WW3.

    Anyone disagree?

    The determining factor is the response of the Working Class ,sorry exfence sitters its time to jump as the Class War period of Wars ,Revolutions and Counter-revolution has announced itself with 50% Wage cuts in the USA and Canada.

    US workers get your guns conscider armed occupations of all locked out factories we own them we maintain them we built them the Factories are ours Capitialist scumbags.

    You can stick your deed titles where the sun don't shine ,50%wage cuts no kidding I didn't make them do this they almost want the working Class to do them in, insanely arrogant themiddle class servant of Capitialism type,oh well Revolutions happen for a reason I guess.
     
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    Seems everyone is silent on the 50% wage cuts ,pulls one up and puts the real situayion that confrounts us into SHARP hip poket of mainstreet as the pudits put it .

    What can the Government of the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH do about its citizens being attacked by Global Transnational powers ,Nothing ,zip,zilch $35 to $16.50 an Hour .

    What you think GENERAL STRIKE comes to mind General strike against the corporations and Government that defends the National intrests of the Rich not the worker.

    Suddenly a 50% wage cut that means DEPRESSION KIDS just like great gradad and gran dad kiddies ,was my parents generation anyone want to know what depression means for workers families ,that would be Malnutrition,grinding poverty,stepping over the next human for a pitance wage.And to end it mass extermination of workers.

    We have nothing to lose now.

    Kill capitialism before it kills us.
     
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    Do the workers who have their wages halved yes halved ,get the intrest rates and cost of living adjusted accordingly?

    Or maybe a new layer of working poor can get unemployment cheques as well to bring them up to 75% of their former wages.
     
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    Get a better education?
     
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    I know London Canada exists I have been there ,what are you saying Canadian workers aren't having their wages cut through LOCKOUTS?

    When will your Capitialist Canadian Government defend the Canadian Workers from Foriegn Corporations cutting wages by 50% thats HALF,divided in 2,anything about the english language you are not familiar with ,whats the word for Half in french ?

    Sorry I think the wsws has a French translation I will check ,it half ,in two,50% cut in wages.

    Here is the french translation for half
    http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/half


    Sorry I must remember a lot of Canadiens are parla vous francais,we,

    I am bi lingual see educated ,"parla vous francais"wee means Do you speak french I think it does anyway my French Canadian Comrade'.
     
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    PhilXXX, you sound French alrite now put your pants back on:)
     
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    You don't understand what true capitalism is. What you're advocating proves you're uneducated and that there is no way you can interpret the current situation or suggest any advice.

    There would be far more alternative locomotive companies if pure capitalism was evident in Canada, but since it is not, these situations will continue to arise and trap workers into no other means of locomotive employment because the government controls too much of the economy.

    I don't see how this forum has tolerated you for over two years.
     
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    My advice to the Striking workers is forma rankand file committee against the corrupt Union leadership and mobilse other workers in General strike and occupations of Factories in the struggle to replace the stinking Canadian Capitialist Government and replace it with a government of by and for the Working Class.

    Your perspective is to allow Foriegn Powers to smash the hard won Conditions and 50% of workers in Canadas wages.

    See us Communists of the Revolutionary not Stalinist type ,are a Party of workers for workers not stinking Capitialist Scum like Rupert Murdoch.Are you going to accept 50% wage cuts and roll over like a curred dog?

    Or will you scab your way through employment ,the writting is on the wall for the protected National Wage market in the 'Advanced Nations",now how much employer apendage do you personally like.

    Personally as well as politically I bend over for no boss.And seriously concider a gun in hand as being apt in relation to 50% wage cuts.

    I see you haven't fought for anything in your life .I sense that about you ,whatare you afraid of?

    Oh by the way lets say the workers are forced to accept the wage slashing it dosen't stop there as then cuts to workers elsewhere will then demand further cuts in Canada .

    Its how Competition on a Global Labour MARKET works a never ending struggle for International competiveness like every other market for every other Commodity ,Labour as Commodity is traded humans are traded by Capitalism and their governments ,didn't they tell you that.?

    Capitialism is aNasty system for the worker ,good for Capitialist means bad for worker and visa versa.
     
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    Oh take this little bit of Edumacation ,from a worker who left school at 16,Capitialism is a Commodity production for a MARKET system of distribution through Global Trade.

    We unedumacated aboriginals know that much we may be unedumacated like you smart fella's but we get there after 25years of studyin Marxism.
     
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    wee wee,I will stick to the language I knows.:)

    French is a little complicated for the likes of uneducated me,xorry for the parla vous Fracais its me bestest French.
     
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    So globally orgainised Capitialist Corporations have the right to cut US and Canadian workers wages by 50% in your opinion?
     
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    True Capitialism is the system you me and every other Human lives in Including Nth Korea and China and Vietnam as well as Cuba.

    I think I got all the Stalinist\Capitialist states.

    Yes the enviroment you live in is 100% pure as Capitialism can be .Now try to comprehend something ,Social reformism is Capitalism as is Liberalism the capitialist system is collapsing BTW and the only alternative perspective is Global Socialism ,there is no other alternative WW3 or Socialism take a position or someone else will.
     
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    That's the one world gov't socialists plan:

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    They are not your friends and you are on the wrong side, if you don't want to live in the third world.

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    Oh the maggot Clinton and whore Albright ,what fun memories of the Capitialist Politicans of more stabil times.

    The USA has 1st ,2nd and 3rd world conditions already,its just that the 3rd world conditions mean competitiveness against China's .
     
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    Time to start the process of unification ,workers of the world United against War and the Banned 'D"word DEPRESSION ,no recovery sorry just cuts and more cuts followed by WW3 or World Socialist revolution.
     
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    Mr. philxx,two questions :

    - does world revolution mean that the whole world will have revolution all at once?

    - is socialism possible on one planet?
     
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    The World,International ,Globalised Proletariet already Moves at once ,the differing forms and timing ,if you like through the lens of National as in Form,is an expression of a Global historical process.

    The process of World socialist revolution or as Trotsky put it 'revolution in Permanence'is already past tense been initiated not by me or you or any Political Party .

    Good old Capitialism is its own Gravedigger ,everything depends on the 'Subjective Factor of history'Lenins Party 'of a "democratic centralist type".

    Or of the Global international type ,see how marxism dosen't remain 'stactic',hello I am probably the first Proletariet Socialist Intelligensia ,you have met,

    Yes the education of the Working Class in its own Independent political Party.In the method of Dialectical Materialism.Scientific Socialism or Marxism .

    which gets us back to the question of the Leninist Communist Party,or the SEP,Socialist Equality Party as it is now known.

    As a worker the Party arms me with the political weapons ,ideology,scientifically based methodology ,Historical materialist method and a training ,as well as a ORGANISATION of a Globally Intergrated Type ,now lets hope the period opening up is a revolutionary not a reformist one .only kidding n,we know from undeniable evidence of a Objective and subjective ,Dialectical nature This is the Era Of Direct Class War\Revolution.

    Either this generation completes the final part of the historic process of building the 4th International,which I think is a immediate question of the forms the Infinite forms of the process of World Socialist Revolution as it unfolds.

    or I say the Other ,of Depression and Nuclear Extinction of humanity in WW3 as Capitialism is presently in the advanced process of implimenting ,exists as Opposite or World Socialist [not Nationalist]Revolution .

    its called the "Unity and transformation of opposites '=Dialectical ,all things exist in flux and change .

    the collapse of the USSR and Now the USA and the EU in the space of 20 years dose ,I think "comrade"indicate the existance of social process a tad larger then Nations,puny bankrupt collasing nations .

    Hope that elaborates if i think we are indeed living in the era ,in fact humanity is on the march to Revolutionary confrountations between the international Working Class and the Nation State Capitialist System like we are living through that NOW everywhere in different form essentially the same World Socialist Revolution.

    We definitely do not live in the 'cold War" and Foul Stalinism Is dead and good riddence to the betrayers of the international and Now Global proletariet.

    Only on 1 planet but probably already exists on others.
     
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    For all those that wish to know what is the 4th communist International go to source.this is the Voice of the Great Internationalist and revolutionary in 1953 USA ,Comrade James P Cannon.
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/oct2008/open-o21.shtml

    50% wage cuts like 'F " word,smash the government wokers of America smash the capitialist government save the nation for Us to own.Our turn to have a workers government of the Revolutionary type in the USA.

    Give life to Comrade james P Cannon 's words,thanku from the 'Unbborn generations 'our great teacher of marxism in deed as well as word.Stalinism is near extinction and the revisionists are imploded.
     
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    First of all, understand I don't entirely disagree with you. Workers always have, and always will, represent the VAST majority of every population everywhere, and a system based on personal effort raising one to the upper classes will always, by definition, marginalize the greatest part of the populace.
    With that said, it is also the fate of mankind.
    For what you advocate to happen, a massive organizational revolution would have to take place, and won't. A massive war with those that hold the reigns of power would have to take place, and it won't. That war would have to be won by those that don't hold that power, and it wouldn't be.
    It might be something worth dying for, though. A noble martyr's death.
     
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    Too many words and no answer at the simple question:how do you see the world revolution?as a simultaneously act?
     
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    And what is your program to prevent another degeneration, after the revolution?

    Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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    At first explain what do you call "degeneration" and when did it stsarted .
     
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    While I fully agree with and support the notion that big business is squashing the middle-class for profit...I also recognize that the average wages in most of the western world are simply too high. It is IMPOSSIBLE to compete globally, when your workers make as much as doctors do in most countries.

    We...the insane yet compassionate left...have made this mess. It is hypocritical to deny this fact. Just as its hypocritical to now decide to take actions that may worsen the issue.

    Wages and salaries must come inline with reality in order for us to be able to manufacture and sell our wares once again...and so that the businesses that we work for can afford to survive.

    Thus instead of proposing a general strike...why not just declare that we, the working class, recognize the problem and are willing to take a hit, once we see the 1% take the same hit. We DEMAND that ALL citizens who enjoy the benefits of western culture, now PAY for that privilege. We also DEMAND that the sky-rocketing salaries of this 1%, along with the exorbitant bonuses, be curtailed and spread among the working class in order to ease the financial shock of our combined sacrifices.

    A General Strike would be damaging both economically and politically...this would be direct and positive.
     
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    And neither will happen.
     

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