Gallup: Impeachment Efforts are Increasing Public Approval for Trump

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    You are giving too much weight to the other factors. It's the economy that directly affects the voters.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

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    No luck necessary, the economy will carry Trump into a second term.
     
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    Steve, come on now. We can agree Trump isn’t a homophobic person.
     
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    We will see in a few months.
     
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    Your blogger lied, and apparently you fell for it, shocker

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#!
     
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    not hardly, the economy will continue on with or without Trump, Trump didn't build that

    the sad thing is, Trump is going to pass on a economy that is close to a recession\depression like Bush did and democrats will have to clean it up
     
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  8. camp_steveo

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    Trump was a reality tv star, and that is how he runs this government, no surprise there

    The Trump Doctrine of putting Trump first is why Trump will be a one term President
     
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    Not to mention that the American public as a whole really means nothing when it comes to the Presidential election.
     
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    Well that plus NBC operates MSNBC. Political neutrality is dead where the three broadcast networks are concerned.
     
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    I saved that post for after the election.
     
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    good, when the recession or sadly even a depression happens in a couple of years, you heard it here first, just like with Bush, Trump is trying his hardest to postpone the crash till after the election and that will only make it worse, will Trump have better luck then Bush?
     
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    Ouiji Board or Crystal Ball?
     
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    From the OP Link:

    “As the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump begins, 44% of Americans approve of the job he is doing as president. Trump’s approval rating has been steady in the past three polls — between 43% and 45% — slightly above the 39% to 41% ratings he received as the impeachment inquiry started in the fall,” writes Gallup.

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    Trump is STILL Hugely UNDERWATER, and the RW thinks that is a"Good Thing"?:roflol:
     
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    Not on the economy, that's the one that affects voters personally.
     
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    you think the economy is doing great, if it was the interest rates would be going up and the fed would not be dumping tons of cash into the economy every day to prop it up

    the debt under Trump is setting new record highs every month, when the economy is doing great, you pay off the credit card
     
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    Trump will still have that second term, no doubt about it. His international trade deals are still within perfect timing to cater in influences and sentiments.
     
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    You are confusing weighting with sampling, quantities with percentages, and generally failing to comprehend the methodology and its impact on results.

    Firstly, sampling is random, with respondents self-reporting their political affiliation. Why? Because political affiliation is not mutable - it changes - making self-reporting the most reliable method of ascertaining political affiliations at any given point in time.

    Your own list of party breakdowns, in a later post, confirms this, affirming both the variability as well as the reliability of self-reporting - the self-reported affiliations in this particular poll are very close (within a couple of points) to those in your list.

    Secondly, the poll ascertains percentages within each group, adds those percentages together, and divides by 3 to get an overall percentage approval rating.

    For instance: 88% of republicans + 37% of independents + 10% of independents = average 45% approval.
    You are confusing weighting with sampling, quantities with percentages, and generally failing to comprehend the methodology and its impact on results.

    Firstly, sampling is random, with respondents self-reporting their political affiliation. Why? Because political affiliation is not mutable - it changes - making self-reporting the most reliable method of ascertaining political affiliations at any given point in time.

    Your own list of party breakdowns, in a later post, confirms this, affirming both the variability as well as the reliability of self-reporting - the self-reported affiliations in this particular poll are very close (within a couple of points) to those in your list.

    Secondly, poll results are not given as numbers (head counts). They are percentages. Specifically, the percentage of approval within each group, with each group looked at in isolation.

    For instance, looking only at republicans, 88% approve.

    This percentage is not affected by the number of republicans (other than that 88% of 1,000 republicans would have a lower margin of error than 88% of 100).

    Nor is it affected by the number of democrats or independents, because it looks at republicans ONLY.

    These separate and individual percentages are added together and divided by 3 to get an overall approval rating.

    For instance: 88% of republicans, 37% of independents, 10% of independents approve = 45% approval overall.
     
  20. Thirty6BelowZero

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    I'm not saying they weren't accurate on the popular vote, I'm saying the popular vote doesn't matter because it holds no water in a presidential election. The polls claimed democrats would take the House and Senate and Clinton would win the electoral college in a landslide but the polls were wrong and it wasn't even close.

    Clinton won 42% of the electoral, Trump won 57%. 1% went to other candidates.
     
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    TLDR. Learn to use the software. Thanks.
     
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    I can't take you serious when you tell me Trump is going to ride obama's economy - which was a total fail until Trump reversed all of obama's EOs - and then be credited for crashing the economy.

    It's clear you're one of the people who will never give credit to Trump no matter how great of a job he does.
     
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    Economy under Bush - Good (Clinton's credit)
    Economy under Obama - Bad (Bush's fault)
    Economy under Trump - Great (Obama's credit)
    Economy under fictional democrat in 2021 - Bad (Trump's fault)

    Let me know when you figure out your mistake.
     
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    So it's Trump's fault you can't pay off your credit card?
     
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    Thanks - I know how to use the "software".

    I went back to finish my post and forgot to delete my interrupted effort.
     
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