Gallup unemployment continues to fall: New low of 7.3%.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Iriemon, Oct 10, 2012.

  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Conservative mythology. No one forced banks and financial institution to invest in trillions of subprimes.

    Fabrication is yours, isn't it?
     
  2. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How much?
     
  3. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    10,351
    Likes Received:
    105
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Clinton had the benefit of the 'dot-com' boom along with a republican majority in congress.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    27,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Which is what I was getting at later in my post there, really. I wouldn't go so far as to accuse his administration of putting out bogus numbers (not saying it isn't possible, either), but I think we can agree that Obama has been a huge economic bummer overall.
     
  5. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is for the poll results for any given day. That error is smoothed out over the 30 day period. Otherwise you'd see them reporting 8.3% one day and 6.3% the next.
     
  6. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    10,351
    Likes Received:
    105
    Trophy Points:
    0
    http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html


    .



     
  7. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The problem is they don't know, the bigger problem you don't care...
     
  8. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another false characterization. Pathological with you, isn't it?
     
  9. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They do know. I don't care about what?
     
  10. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    47,987
    Likes Received:
    6,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just proves how CORRUPTABLE Gallup is.I mean under a Dictatorship.
    Gallup is doing what Obama loves.When caught with a hand in the cookie jar
    just Double Down and sneak more cookies.
     
  11. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They certainly did. The subprime mortgage bucket went from ~30 billion to over ~330 billion by the time he left office. Housing prices were relatievely flat for decades until Clinton's second term, when he put forth an intentional plan to increase home ownership and housing prices. By the time he left office, prices were higher than at any point in history. The rising trend followed a linear path from the late 90's to 2007.

    Bill Clinton's drive to increase homeownership went way too far
    Add President Clinton to the long list of people who deserve a share of the blame for the housing bubble and bust. A recently re-exposed document shows that his administration went to ridiculous lengths to increase the national homeownership rate.
    http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty/archives/2008/02/clintons_drive.html

    Minorities' Home Ownership Booms Under Clinton but Still Lags Whites'
    It's one of the hidden success stories of the Clinton era. In the great housing boom of the 1990s, black and Latino homeownership has surged to the highest level ever recorded. The number of African Americans owning their own home is now increasing nearly three times as fast as the number of whites; the number of Latino homeowners is growing nearly five times as fast as that of whites.
    http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807

    HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ITS BENEFITS - 1995
    At the request of President Clinton, the U.S. Department of Housing
    and Urban Development (HUD) is working with dozens of national
    leaders in government and the housing industry to implement the
    National Homeownership Strategy, an unprecedented public-private
    partnership to increase homeownership to a record-high level over the
    next 6 years.

    http://www.huduser.org/publications/txt/hdbrf2.txt

    Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
    In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

    The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.


    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

    Bill Clinton, Home Wrecker
    "I want to target new (housing) markets, underserved populations, tear down the barriers to discrimination wherever they are found," Clinton said. "We have to do a better job of reaching the underserved; of eradicating discriminatory practices that prevent minorities from finding, financing or buying the home of their choice.

    "We can widen the circle of homeownership beyond anything we have ever seen," he added.

    Indeed, Clinton's policies for the first time threw millions of previously unqualified buyers into the mortgage mix, fueling an unprecedented housing bubble.


    http://news.investors.com/article/585922/201109231847/bill-clinton-home-wrecker.htm?p=full


    Just more unintended, but always well intentioned, side-effects from liberal central planning.
     
  12. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2008
    Messages:
    9,312
    Likes Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Brewskier didn't say he was. He said Clinton set the stage for the bubble, which has some undeniable merit. Is Clinton the sole person to blame? Not by a long shot. There is blame to be shared on both sides of the aisle and across several administrations. Simply denying it through a red herring statement doesn't change that.
     
  13. coolguybrad

    coolguybrad New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,576
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I believe, its come down, at least according to CBO projections. I am trying to find them.
     
  14. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
  15. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Clinton was referred to as the first real enforcer of the CRA. Banks were forced to keep a certain percentage of their funds aside for "underrepresented borrowers", or else their mergers could be denied, their funding requests could be put on hold, and many other possible consequences for inaction. Borrowing standards were lowered across the board, which caused more people to borrow. Consequences have actions.
     
  16. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course. It's just a massive left wing conspiracy that secretely controls the universe. Gallup must be in on it, because Rush said the unemployment situation would get worse, and he's never wrong.
     
  17. coolguybrad

    coolguybrad New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,576
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
  18. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'll say Clinton and his Administration are the most directly responsible for what happened. Bush, to his discredit, continued and expanded these "ownership" programs, but it all started with Clinton. There's a reason why housing prices stayed constant for years and then suddenly, after all of these deliberate ownership programs that Clinton put forth, including the lowering of borrowing standards, they started rising.
     
  19. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    10,351
    Likes Received:
    105
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What part of "In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. " do you fail to understand?
     
  20. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We didn't have a housing bubble in the mid 1990s. However, we have had plenty of threads on your claim it was all Clinton's fault. Feel free to continue those if you want. I'll avoid diverting this one to go into the housing crisis that has been the subject of innumerable threads in the past.
     
  21. LibertyRansom

    LibertyRansom New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I just read that Gallup is being run by a Muslim who invited Obama to his wedding in Kenya in 1972 and Obama brought a male date to the reception. Coincidense? I think not.
     
  22. LibertyRansom

    LibertyRansom New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    842
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I just read that Gallup is being run by a Muslim who invited Obama to his wedding in Kenya in 1972 and Obama brought a male date to the reception. Coincidense? I think not.
     
  23. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    47,987
    Likes Received:
    6,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Clinton put Franklin Raines in charge at Fannie Mae and he resigned in disgrace
    for caught cooking the books.Raines did manage a sizeable Bonus in the
    hundreds of Millions.
     
  24. keymanjim

    keymanjim New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2008
    Messages:
    10,351
    Likes Received:
    105
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I just read some idiot's post on a forum that has nothing to do with the thread.
     
  25. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    82,348
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The part where it doesn't support your claim, as demonstated in other threads.
     

Share This Page