Gaza Cockroaches Fire 12 Rockets Into Israel, ONE HOUR After "Big Ceasefire"

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ur-after-big-ceasefire-10.html#post1061986807

 

You sure do have a warped imagination. Israel easily could claim rights to the Sinai, half of Jordan, Lebanon and parts of Syria if they had exercised their rights of conquest.

 

Only Tony Salhoub can get away with that one.

I do find it interesting that you associate the word cockroach with racial epithets. Liberals and their stupid code words.

 

There is no right of conquest any more,this is not the wild west and you do not get to murder the Indians. It is also a fact that they stole Palestinian land.

 

1400 year old problem. The Muslims have been trying to eradicate the Jews since their pedophile prophet started lopping off heads in the name of Allah in the 700s.

 

Your claiming things does not make them so.

YOU are not what I am referring to when I say use legitimate sources to defend your position.

I am willing to be convinced that I am wrong. I have no loyalty to anything but facts. You are just a troll...
The facts have been lain out... and all you can do is say "nuh uh".

The accord was signed by Palestinian authority in 2004 and was celebrated by Hamas on execution in 2005.

So... you suck at this.

Find a SINGLE source which supports your brain bruised interpretation that Israel flying a jet over Gaza airspace is a violation of ANY international law... and is not in fact observed by it.

You have nothing. Conjecture, anger, obfuscation... links back to things YOU say... as if they are facts and refute anything I have shown you.

 

Ah another American with no grasp of history.

I will try to educate you just this once but then you will have to learn for yourself. So when the Arabs conquered Jerusalem from the Crusaders in the 12th century they then let the Jews go back and pray at their holy places, the Crusaders never allowed that. Your vision of history is just made up crap.

 

What the Iran backed Hamas 'sand monkeys' will never get until it's too late that they will fire off just one too many Iranian made rockets into Israeli neighborhoods and Israel will essentially turn all of Gaza into a thirty foot thick molten glass skating rink. What will the last straw be? Pictures sent around the world of a school bus of kids that were turned into ground round followed by scenes of Palestinians cheering in the streets. WW111 is only a few weeks away. Don't anyone be deluded into believing that Israel will 'sort of' attack Iran's leadership and nuclear bomb making facilities and the Hamas leadership. (Israel BTW knows where everyone of them is every second of the day) and Syria's leadership. It only took Israel six days to kick the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of every Arab that attacked it last time. This time figure more like six hours. I'm stocking up on popcorn drenched in pork fat so I won't have to leave my big screen.

 

I refer you to my previous dismissal of your silly claims.

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ur-after-big-ceasefire-10.html#post1061986807

 

Your personal dismissal of things does not make them not so.


You have nothing.

Just troll.

Not talking about Oslo... talking about an agreement in 2005, which was signed and is universally held as legitimate, save Hamas... who does not follow international law or oversight. You have nothing... you WANT so badly to talk about Oslo accord, and Israel... but that is not the subject here. This is not a 1993 document... or a 1947 document... or a 1200 spit handshake... or a 633 attack.

We are talking about what I have linked you to repeatedly... which carries international legal validity. You don't care about the facts. You just hate. I get it. I'm done with you. This is like poking a retard with a stick... sure it's fun at first... then it becomes sad. I am sorry you are so blinded by position that you are impervious to truth. You are the embodiment of the problem, and it is depressing to watch.

I hope you find truth again. Good luck.

 

When are you going to get it that Gaza is not sovereign land and the rights to airspace and international waters does not apply? Since 1967, Israel has had sole authority on the borders of Gaza, the airspace and what would be Gaza's International Waters. Even after the 2005 Disengagement Plan, Israel is still the arbiters of all three. They could hover helicopters over a Gazan's house if they wanted to.

 

Pot calling kettle black. The Disengagement Plan affirmed that Israel would not relinquish control of the airspace, borders or coastal waters according to the terms that ended the Six Day War. Sorry if you can't see past your own hatred.

 

Your agreement in 2005 was a part of the Oslo accord agreements, which you obviously do not even know. Have you ever read the Oslo accords? No you have not, Israel was supposed to withdraw from Palestinian territory and in 2005 they left Gaza, they are still in the west bank and have broken the Oslo agreement. Hamas never ever accepted that agreement anyway and being as they are the government of Gaza and do not recognise Israel you have no argument.You really do not know what all these agreements are and how they are related,well that is what you get when you depend on wikipedia for all your info. Here is something that might interest you.

The accords undermined this position, and Hamas immediately rejected, absolutely, everything in the agreement. It declared that it would not recognize or respect the Accords and would continue in its military resistance.

http://www.palestinereport.ps/article.php?article=24

and there you have it, Hamas are not held by any agreements that were signed by the PLO because they rejected them. Game set and match. Thanks for playing.

 

It does not matter what it agreed to, Hamas never signed it and they never signed Oslo either and the rest of your post is the same trash that dumb Americans post and no one takes serious anyway.

 

When are you going to realise that Palestine is indeed a sovereign state as recognised by 130 members of the UN.

 

In the minds of Hamas, Hamas is correct.
As to international law, and common sense... not.

Because Hamas rejects the legitimacy the world observes, does not make them legally correct... you just want war... hoping that Israel will just be vanquished so that law doesn't matter.

And in doing so, disenfranchise those who would support you.

You will legitimize anything... because of the reasons stated above... you will continue to attack ME, because you cannot justify your position other than to tell me what Hamas thinks. Like I said... I'm done... it is fruitless and time consuming. You don't care about facts... you just want to draw into a protracted debate about the Oslo accord... and yes... the Palestinian authority SIGNED the drawdown agreement...

You act as if if Republicans rejected an international treaty, and came to office, they could simply ignore international law because they didn't support its signing. You are just... a hate ball.

Happy Thanksgiving.

 

Go away troll. You've been defeated. You are making an intellectually dishonest argument and you can't find a way out. You are actually suggesting that just because the new political party in town, Hamas, didn't sign a document that it doesn't apply. This is like stating that anything signed by a Democrat [or Whig, Federalist or Democratic-Republican] in the US doesn't have to be adhered to by a Republican government simply doesn't apply.

You are laughable.

 

Actually it does make them correct as they are the government of Gaza, they are legally correct under their own laws and they are the ones that count when you are a government of a country. Your argument is done, Hamas rejected that agreement,they never signed that agreement, they do not recognise Israel which that agreement calls for.Israel has already broken that agreement many times, even the PLO are breaking that agreement by going to the UN.So the only people who uphold that agreement are stupid zionist types that support Israel, you claim not to be one but I have my doubts now.

 

This is not yankee fantasy land cowboy, this is the middle east. Hamas are the government of Gaza and they never signed any agreements and they do not even recognise Israel as called for in the agreement and that is the be all and end all. Now troll you can run along.

 

Lets be blunt folks. The Arabs cashed in with Hitler believing he would exterminate every Jew on the planet. Well he didn't and the winning countries decided to rub the Arabs 'face in it' for the rest of time. NOTHING enrages an Arab more than losing face. Well they better get used to it bc as long as Israel exists the Palestinians basically will enjoy a delicious daily repast of 'three squares a day' comprised of #1 sand, #2 the disgrace of losing against their sworn historic enemy, #3 inner rage at being so stupid over and over and over again throughout history. Hell their own people in the region want nothing to do with them. They are an international pariah and behind closed doors thought of as sort of a bunch of mentally challenged losers in the West. I'm mean what people in their right mind would vote in Hamas to move their society forward? They got what they wanted and now they have to live with the consequences.

 

What a 'load'. Those votes were simply an 'advisory' not in the remotest way binding. If you don't know that you ought to if you do know it you are attempting to BS members here. In either case your opinions appear to be useless to the debate. Go read a book.

 

When are you going to realize that until the UN manages to get a veto-proof majority of members to actually pass a statute proclaiming Palestine as a sovereign nation, that Palestine is still nothing more than territory controlled by Israel? Even Jordan didn't want full control of the West Bank. Sweden, one of Palestine's staunchest supporters hasn't recognized them and prefers to allow international powers to negotiate as does the US, Mexico and many others.

I can sit here and do the Deputy Dawg Dance™ and scream and yell that me and 59,000,000 others don't see Obama as the legitimate President but not only would I be wrong but it wouldn't have any bearing on the government of the United States and international politics.

 

Congrats. From first met to ignore in record time. I usually give members here an opportunity, but I'd rather argue with my cat. He's smarter anyway.

Buh-bye.

 

You are incorrect. Being a sovereign state does not mean that you have to be recognised by the UN, it means that other states recognise you as a state and 130 states in the world recognise Palestine as a state. Your logic is based on limited knowledge. China was not recognised by the UN as a state for decades, Taiwan had its seat but China was recognised by others countries so was a sovereign state. Another silly argument dismissed as fiction.

 

Thumbs up. Egypt was more than happy to cede Gaza in 1967. Israel tried to cajole Jordan into regulating the West Bank and Jordan balked preferring the two-state solution. Sweden won't recognize them as sovereign, despite being in their camp, until they clean up their act.

It's not rocket science.