George Zimmerman Jury Told His Injuries Were 'Insignificant'

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  1. Clausewitz

    Clausewitz Active Member

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    His injuries were not at all life threatening. His head was not about to "explode".

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/george-zimmerman-jury-told-injuries-insignificant/story?id=19552856

    If he was, his head injury would've led to a a traumatic brain injury, and either way a side effect would be difficulty thinking and other cognitive challenges

    http://www.traumaticbraininjury.com/understanding-tbi/what-are-the-effects-of-tbi/

    So, why the heck does this man still have weapons? I believe Florida laws account for mental disorders as disqualifies for a firearms license. This is neither a political nor racial point, but the fact is he continues to use weapons out of anger

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/10/us/george-zimmerman-arrested/

    He is hardly a hero, nor worth defending in any capacity.
     
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    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Geez..........not this crap again.........
     
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    A determination regarding severity cannot be accurately made based on observation of photographs that do not go below skin level.

    Even if the above is true and George Zimmerman's head injuries were not life threatening, that is irrelevant. One does not simply conclude that the amount of force being used to slam their skull against the ground is insufficient to cause significant brain injury. One makes the conclusion that someone is trying to kill them.

    The amount of force it takes to kill an individual is not something set in stone. There is no way of determining how much force is lethal or not lethal.

    http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2014/12/22/teen-punch-friend-crossroads-high-school/20786777/

    If a single punch to the face is capable of killing at least some individuals, it is reasonable to conclude that having your head slammed against the pavement is equally capable, regardless of what an after the fact examination may suggest to the contrary.

    No one is claiming George Zimmerman is a hero in need of defending. What George Zimmerman is, is an individual who has not been found guilty of any crime that would legally disqualify him from firearms ownership.
     
  4. Clausewitz

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    Really? If you don't want to comment, then don't. You are not as cheerful as your mood suggest.

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    Ok, so every time guys brawl in a bar they should be legally allowed to kill their opponent. Sounds like a good idea...
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His injuries were not life threatening because he put an end to the assault before they became life threatening. The attack was life threatening. The idea is to end a life threatening attack before life threatening injuries can be inflicted.
     
  6. Clausewitz

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    So I take it you've never been in a fist fight? Would you deserve to die? What if the races were reversed? Would you still feel the same way?

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    First of all, he sought help the morning after so I doubt it was that bad.

    Second of all, his own doctor released a report showing no traumatic brain injury

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532

    Third of all, he continues to act violently
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is not the argument I'd make. I don't expect someone to be on the verge of death before using a weapon to defend themselves.

    The real reason Zimmerman is not a hero is because he's a cop wannabe who probably attempted a citizen's arrest and Trayvon paid with his life when he tried to resist arrest from the weird looking fat dude without a badge.
     
  8. Clausewitz

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    Nearly every fight ends when the guy getting his ass beat accepts it. Had he taken the beating, both him and trayvon would be alive, and maybe he'd stop stalking people during the night...
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm a lover, not a fighter. But if you assault me, you will very likely suffer the same fate as Martin did. I don't fist fight, I protect myself from having to. Race has nothing to do with it, at all.
     
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    If one is unjustifiably assaulted, why should they not be permitted to defend their life with necessary force?
     
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    Alternatively, had George Zimmerman allowed the assault to continue, he would either be in a coma or dead, and Trayvon Martin would be in prison with a felony murder conviction. He would be just one more black felon who would be unable to find a job upon his release, have no way to support himself, and turn to a life of crime, thus perpetuating the cycle of what many consider to be the black thug lifestyle.
     
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    Would it be better if he was a white felon?
     
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    Travon was "unjustifiably assaulted" and tried to defend his life with force but the scared punk thug Zimmerman brought a gun to a fist fight and like the coward he is, killed Travon because he was getting his sorry fat ass beat up

    Zimmy's a coward and a punk and a thug and a scared little piece of (*)(*)(*)(*).!
     
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    Well I'm sure you strike fear if the hearts of thugs around the world...and you're not the only person with a gun, so tone it down, Rambo.
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Do you sleep with Rush as well as worship him and all the puke he spews?

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    Very relevant to your racism.
     
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    Trayvon Martin possessed no injuries beyond the single gunshot wound to the chest. There is no evidence that Trayvon Martin was physically assaulted by George Zimmerman.
     
  18. Clausewitz

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    Did Zimmerman contribute to trayvons death by following him, unjustifiably?

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    But your black felon comment is relevant? Now I see how Zimmerman walked...
     
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    As well as nothing but a small cut on Zimmy's head. Your defense of this piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) is repugnant.
     
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    Zimmerman probably didn't know with any certainty he was going to live. We can't expect people to take a beating when they might not survive.
     
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    Your post is in violation of rules two, three, and four.

    You know of no details pertaining to myself, either race, gender, or nationality. Do not assume that I am racist, simply because I do not subscribe to the foolish concept of race loyalty.
     
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    Because we know in loony land that the only way you can defend yourself is if you have serious enough injuries preventing you from defending yourself.
     
  23. Clausewitz

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    I assumed the same thing. If we are wrong, what's the deal with your previous black felon and black thug life comment? What relevance does race have to your comments?

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    So every punch should lead to a shooting? Did Zimmerman do anything to contribute to trayvon death?
     
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    Your words speak way louder than your anonymity.
     
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    Explain in detail how George Zimmerman following Trayvon Martin was unjustified.

    It is a recognition of how the real world works. The justice system is biased against black defendants. Trayvon Martin was likely to be convicted of homicide to some degree if he had lived.
     

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