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All you've shown in your pseudo- philosophical personal attack is that you can't debunk anything I've researched and / or written.

If you would like to discuss WW 2 and / or the holocaust, let's do so at a more appropriate thread.

 

Please do. Please stop trashing this one.

 

If you want "proof" for the Holocaust check out the references in Matthew White "The Great Big Book of Horrible Things".

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Horrible-Things-Matthew-White/dp/B00D8222BC/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1XQRSHDBD7M1J&keywords=The+Great+Big+Book+of+Horrible+Things&qid=1665515077&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjUzIiwicXNhIjoiMS4zOCIsInFzcCI6IjEuNjkifQ==&sprefix=the+great+big+book+of+horrible+things,aps,427&r=8-2

What's interesting is that @Grau is so intent on smearing Dwight Eisenhower and other allied leaders for supposedly killing large numbers of German POWs after WW2 is that he completely ignores an arguably even greater crime against Germans that is the killing of around 2 million German civilians in surrounding countries after WW2.

 

It is typical of holocaust cult members to regard irrefutable facts as "trash".

Please chose a thread if you want to discuss history rather than insult me.

 

Take your own advice, thread trasher. This thread has nothing to do with the Holocaust or your conspiracy theories surrounding it.

 

1. If you don't see how claims of surviving six gassings where nobody else believes gas chambers existed is both impossible and ridiculous, then you are not thinking rationally.

2. Who would have fewer? The fraudulent and greedy Holocaust Industry with it's proven history of dishonesty or admitted Allied propagandists?

3. By not answering relevant questions.

Thanks,

 

Well IIRC Doctors Without Borders was formed after the Red Cross showed favoritism during the Biafran conflict in order to protect their own asses.

Restate your "relevant questions" and I'll answer them directly.

Only in your weird world would someone being gassed six times be taken as "evidence" that gassings did not take place.

 

Yes, and its miltary became weakened to a dangerous degree when Ursula von der Leyen was 'Defense Minister' under Chancellor Angela Merkel!

Ursula von der Leyen spent all her time shutting down one military facility, and/or its materiel allotment, after another, in addition to going on loudly publicized 'snipe-hunts' -- a mission to root out personnel in German military barracks who put up pictures of former Bundesrepublik Chancellor, Helmut Schmidt -- because he had been a Lieutenant in the Air Force of the Wehrmacht during WWII.

But this was pleasing to Merkel because it gave her more money to flush down the welfare-handout pipeline to support migrants and other parasites who were flocking to Germany....




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You're only showing your desperation by defaming the most credible agency in the war.

I dare you to show me a reputable source that states that the Germans ever threatened or abused a member of the Red Cross.

The Red Cross had access to the German camps where they delivered additional food but were prohibited from inspecting or even bringing food to Eisenhower's Death Camps or Soviet Gulags.

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I've changed just one word in a question I believe is relevant:

" .....do you still believe that the "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", shrunken heads, "human skin Pocketbooks", homicidal gas, steam and electrocution chambers (1) etc that were featured in Billy Wilder's propaganda "documentary", "Death Mills", were authentic?"


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It seems more weird to believe that someone could survive 6 alleged gassings but "Koko" and I have already shown you dozens of documents that expose the homicidal gas chamber myth to be no more valid than the steam chambers, electrocution chambers (1) or gas chambers (2).

The homicidal gas chamber myth was just Allied propaganda to demoralize the German people. (3)


Have a good night.



(1) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED



(2)“The Holocaust Myth”
http://www.searchforthetruth.co.uk/holocaust

EXCERPT “Major Miller of the Allied Military Police HQ in Vienna signed memo/order #31/48 on Oct. 1, 1948 declaring that since the Allied Commissions of Inquiry had established that no one in the 12 German concentration camps was killed by poison gas, that any former inmate maintaining otherwise was to be arrested and charged with perjury.” CONTINUED


(3) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.

 

Are you suggesting the Red Cross has no biases? Have you ever read about how and why Doctors Without Borders was formed?

 

What about when you swing the camera around to the other side of the gas chamber?

You know the part they dont show you in the photo?

 

What about when you swing the camera around to the other side of the gas chamber?

You know the part they dont show you in the photo?

 

And what would the camera show then?

 

It's irrational to suggest that the Red Cross would or could conspire with war criminals who lost the war when they were under tremendous pressure to join in Allied and Holocaust Industry propaganda.


"Official sources from the International Red Cross prove that the "Holocaust" was a Jewish fraud."
https://vk.com/@judi1964-official-sources-from-the-international-red-cross-prove-that

EXCERPT "There is one study on the Jewish question in Europe during World War II, and on conditions in German concentration camps, almost unique in its fairness and objectivity, 3-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross [ICRC] on its activities during World War II, Geneva 1948.

This comprehensive material from a completely neutral source took into account and extended the results of two previous works: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne concentration camps in Germany 1939-1945] (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947).

The team of authors from Frédéric Siordet explained in the opening pages of the report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, maintained a strict political neutrality, and that is its great value.



"A unique organization, independent and united: The Red Cross"
Frédéric Siordet
"Established in 1869, the International Review of the Red Cross is a peer-reviewed, academic journal produced three times a year by the International Committee ..."

Now, please answer:

" .....do you still believe that the "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", shrunken heads, "human skin Pocketbooks", homicidal gas, steam and electrocution chambers (1) etc that were featured in Billy Wilder's propaganda "documentary", "Death Mills", were authentic?"


(1) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED

 

I think the eyewitness survivors including some of which were Sunderkommando's who witnessed the gassings and crematorium's in person witnessing the Nazi's murder tens of thousands of Jewish in a single day is proof enough.

It seems some people of the internet age are so easily manipulated with false propaganda where history is so easily forgotten.

 

Strangely enough nobody denies the killing of more than three million Soviet POWs.

 

How many German POW's did the Russians kill?

 

I certainly agree with your last sentence and have already shown numerous examples of Allied - Holocaust Industry propaganda.

I'm old enough to have known numerous holocaust survivors, German WW 2 Veterans and WW 2 survivors of various nationalities.
Some had heard of homicidal gas chambers via Allied propaganda leaflets and radio(1) and some had seen defumigation chambers where lice in old clothes, blankets were killed but not one had ever seen a homicidal gas chamber.

What you have described: "...Nazi's murder tens of thousands of Jewish in a single day is proof enough." is physically impossible just as countless profitable "eyewitness accounts" are fraudulent.

For example:


“Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

EXCERPTS:

• Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

• William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

• Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

• Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

• Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

• Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED

By the way, Moshe Peer's story about being gassed 6 times was printed in the The Gazette of Montreal (Canada), August 5, 1993, even though not a single reputable historian claims that anyone was ever "gassed" in the Bergen-Belsen camp.(1)

Normally, these ridiculous lies would be laughable except that they comprise the only "documented evidence" that was required to murder a countless number of innocent German POWs in post-war "Trials" and dupe gullible Western holocaustians for decades.

Thanks,


(1) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.

 

Since the Nazi's murdered Sonderkommando's (the only Jewish witnesses to Gassing) every 3 months to cover their Nazi crimes of mass murder, the only surviving Sonderkommando's were the last group of which only 70 survived describing harrowing tales where women and children are gassed within hours of arriving in Auschwitz. Maybe not 10k per day, but in the thousands daily for sure. How else do you describe 5 million missing jewish people? I have read over 20 biographies and the most telling book was by
Miklós Nyiszli called "Auschwitz: A Doctor’s Eyewitness Account."

Another good book Chil Rajchman called "The Last Jew of Treblinka" which goes into daily detail how the Jewish were exterminated as he worked as one of the people who would take the gold teeth from the dead amongst other horrible acts.

But, I figure you would deny they are not telling the truth as the internet conspiracy people told you so as well.

Lastly, the most informational book of all was a research book that is immensely huge called "The Holocaust" by Gilbert Martin in which he details every single small village in Europe, (mainly in Poland) of which he details the names and explicit details where people were slaughtered and how they were rounded up with names of vicitims and witnesses.

I have also read 10 books on the Russian Gulag's and you wouldn't believe how the USA had its own Embassy citizens taken to the Gulag's in the middle of the night. Thousands of US Citizens that went to work in Russia disappeard to the Gulags during Stalins paranoia over a decade period. FYI. About 350k US Citizens went to Russia for work during the Depression.

 

Why do you keep claiming that killing tens of thousands of Jews in a single day is "physically impossible"?

During the Rwandan Genocide the Hutus killed Tutsi's at that rate or faster using no more than machetes and small arms.

 

Germany signed the Geneva Convention while Russia refused to.
I worked and lived with a German former POW who survived a Russian gulag.

When the Russians learned that he played the violin they broke his fingers.

 

He was lucky given what the Russians have often done.

 

The mother of my friend was a part of that fraudulent industry. She managed to escape from a Jewish cattle truck going through Poland. She was rescued by the partisans. She never saw her family again. I bet that family is somewhere still in Poland, peeling potatoes in some happy camp somewhere.

 

So you're not judging what ppl say/do - its just the color of their flag/skin that matters