Girl, 14, killed by LA police in clothing store shooting

No it isn't. Have you ever heard of an occupational hazard?

 

When your job is to enforce the law, you should have even less excuse than an average citizen for tagging someone in your backstop.
Trigger happy blue person kills someone and you say "well these things happen.". That's outrageous.

 

Stuff happens sometimes.

 

An occupational hazard is you getting killed, not killing some random bystander because you couldn't keep it in your pants.

 

They're incompetent at their job.

 

And I’m saying they should do everything they can to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Not shrug off the death of a teenager with, “stuff happens”.

 

How do we pay more if cops don't shoot violent criminals?
When they kill an innocent, it's going to cost the city $millions if civil lawsuits.

 

This is why it's so important to read as much news from differing sources as possible. There is no such thing as media impartiality, the best you can do is listen to all and use reason to sort out the chaff.

It's not any different in non-Capitalist societies, except its a lot harder to get dissenting views.

 

The standard should be the same for a cop backed into a corner as it is for a CCW carrying citizen backed into a corner.

Neither should be able to kill without consequence, but it's important to note that a death is not necessarily indicative of wrongdoing, or worthy of legal reprisal.

 

They are police and they deal with life and death from time to time. I work from the assumption that they work to maintain public safety and to improve on their practices as a routine matter and they don't need me to preach to them.

 

History says your assumption is misplaced.

 

Cops have to stop violent criminals somehow. Tazers and pepperspray are not always effective, and grappling with violent criminals dramatically increases risk of injury to cops who we then have to pay for their injuries and pay for someone else to cover their shift while they're recovering.

Lawsuits are indeed another problem, but IMO cities are too quick to settle. Sometimes the only options are- try to shoot the perp and risk hitting a bystander or risk the perp hurting or killing a bystander.

Its worth noting that families of cops dont get huge settlements when cops are killed trying to stop criminals, even when those cops get killed because they tried to tackle instead of trying to shoot.

The bottom line is I think people have an unreasonable expectation of how safe other people can make them and we've long passed the limit of diminishing returns. We keep spending more and more money on cops and on lawsuits, but there is a degree of risk that goes along with going out in public that we'll never be able to totally overcome. Occassional tragedy is a part of reality.

 

But for its not the same when the cop shoots into an area with innocent people. Noted !!

 

No it doesn't. Law Enforcement just gets a lot of bad press.

 

There's procedures that have to be followed. Especially when using a weapon in public.

In many departments, there may need to be adjustments made on use of deadly force. It is probably something that should be reviewed every 5 yrs or so anyway.

But those $millions of $$$ lawsuits will outweigh the cops injuries and overtime of those covering the officers missed work.

Every hunter who takes hunter's safety is taught the same thing. As I am sure every LEO is taught. Know your target and know what's behind your target.

 

Absolutely. Any dept that isnt training cops in effort to mitigate civilian casualties is at major fault. But no amount of training and precaution can eliminate it completely. Its the 'this can never happen' mentality that I'm addressing. In a population of hundreds of millions, it will happen.

 

It can never happen.
But yes, statistically it's going to happen. But that still is not an excuse.

I read the round that hit the girl in the dressing room, bounced off the floor 1st. That means the officer likely shot at the criminal while he was down on the ground.

 

Anyone here saying stuff doesn't happen?

 

Here is the body cam footage. A tragic death for the little girl. Tragic that this criminal caused the situation and deadly force to be used.



Charges against the officer who fired?

IMO no, he was properly carrying out is job to stop the person who was attacking people with deathly force and was reported to be armed and shooting.

 

This is not sitting in a deer standing waiting for a deer to come into sight. They had an active shooter according to the radio calls and victims down. The criminal was spotted as he tried to evade. They shot before he could harm anyone else and unfortunately there was a person behind a wall who was hit with one of the three bullets fired. A tragedy to be sure but no fault on the officers part but I am sure he will live with it the rest of his life.

 

The criminal was standing and attempting to evade capture. I posted the body cam video. The bullet could have been deflected as it passed through the criminal towards the ground.

 

Hunters don't have to take the shot but sometimes LEO do.

 

Says who? When bullets start flying there is no telling what will happen. Do you think gang bangers kill little kids on purpose when they do a drive by?

We live in an unpredictable reality. I know that scares some folks but facts are facts. You a pretending the cop shot this girl on purpose. Sad.

 

Really? I did not know you made the rules.....

 

No, they are not. Feces occurs.