Global temperatures COOLER now than when Gore won Nobel Prize in 2007

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    CO2 and methane are not a pollutant. To claim so is ridiculous. All air breathing life forms would have to be classified as polluters.

    GMO's require less. That's proven fact. And that is why they are so important to developing nations.

    Again no policy recommendations ??
     
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    In other posts you claimed to have the ability to assess "the science". The above statement shows that this claim is dubious.

    I have presented you with science, logic and evidence that backs up my statements. When this science and logic conflicts with your made up claims you then go into denial mode and respond by repeating made up claims as if repetition makes them true.

    "A pollutant is a substance or energy introduced into the environment that has undesired effects, or adversely affects the usefulness of a resource. A pollutant may cause long- or short-term damage by changing the growth rate of plant or animal species, or by interfering with human amenities, comfort, health, or property values"

    Things like benzene at low concentrations are not "pollutants". Something is a pollutant when it reaches a concentration that has undesirable effects. You do not understand what you are talking about and you do not bother to take the time to educate yourself. You make these "defacto" claims without giving any support for the claim and more importantly - without consideration of any counter arguments that conflict with what you want to believe.


    EPA Formally Declares CO2 a Dangerous Pollutant
    http://dailysignal.com/2009/12/07/epa-formally-declares-co2-a-dangerous-pollutant/

    1) CO2 is having an undesired effect
    2) CO2 has been classified by environmental agencies as a pollutant.


     
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    The Obama EPA is a corrupt institution. Just because they define CO2 as a pollutant you blindly adhere to that ?? Come'on man - think it through.

    And actually the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere increases to a level of ~ 3000 ppm the effects are net beneficial.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree ... but this does not change the fact that CO2 is a pollutant.

    This is beyond nonsense and as usual you are making stuff up and throwing out there (with no supporting evidence) like it has some basis in reality

    I can not continue listening to this nonsense. It is becoming way too painful.
     
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    What was CO2 before it became a "pollutant" ?? Hint: it is the gas which is used in photosynthesis. Does that sound like a "pollutant" ??

    The consensus of economic analyses show this result. Global warming is net beneficial for ~ 3 deg C greater than the temp in the year 2000. For a climate sensitivity of ~ 1 deg C this would occur when the atmospheric concentration is ~ 8X what it was in the year 2000 (~ 360 ppm). Hint: the climate sensitivity of CO2 is logarithmic. Do your homework and quit complaining.
     

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