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Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by CourtJester, Jul 18, 2015.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hoosier8, Jul 21, 2015
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  2. Poor Debater

    Poor Debater New Member

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    The graph doesn't leave off the last 14 years. Your claim is false.

    GISS version used up to May 2015, not quite the same as the new one. The difference would be quite small.
     
    Poor Debater, Jul 22, 2015
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  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to your alleged 'attributions' it does.
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 22, 2015
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  4. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    The thought that you think you actually know more than the overwhelming majority of the scientific community makes any further interest in your input laughable.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 22, 2015
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  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Logical fallacy, appeal to authority. Try some actual facts for a change like how hurricanes have not increased or sea level increase has actually slowed down.
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 22, 2015
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  6. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You are aware that the United States is not the world, right. The issue is global warming, not US warming, not New York City warming, not main street warming.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 22, 2015
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  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I know, continuous changes in the NOAA dataset are never a problem.
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 22, 2015
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  8. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You are confusing authority with knowledge. The overwhelming majority of the scientific community is not an authority, it is an overwhelming repository of knowledge and experience. There is no scientific organization that denys man's contribution to global warming. Look at the list I posted. Now post your list of scientific organizations to support your position.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Well, you are correct for a change. It had to happen sometime.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 22, 2015
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  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Especially before the Paris meeting.
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 22, 2015
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  10. mdrobster

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    Clouds? yeah right you must be an expert. Either that or you are making it up.
     
    mdrobster, Jul 23, 2015
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  11. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Is that all. Nuclear testing has more than that. One had to include engineering factors too.
     
    mdrobster, Jul 23, 2015
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  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if you don't understand what I am referring to then you haven't read anything about it.
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 23, 2015
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  13. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    I guess I will go down to the library and pick up a Parameter book :)
     
    mdrobster, Jul 23, 2015
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  14. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    John Cook of SKS.

    Yes, why DOES John Cook of ‘SkepticalScience’ and the 97% have to use identity theft in his ‘research’?

     
    Hoosier8, Jul 23, 2015
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  15. Zorro

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    This seems a bit ironic:

    Global Warming Research Team Iced In In the Hudson Bay
    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2015/07/global-warming-team-iced-in.html
     
    Zorro, Jul 23, 2015
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  16. rkhames

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    By the same token, just because a man dies does not mean that he was murdered, and if there is a forest fire does not automatically mean it is the result of arson. Some things are caused by natural causes.

    Continued below:

    If these temperatures are not unprecedented then what are we talking about? Phil Jones' statement proves how little we know about the mechanisms that drives temperatures. They do not know whether the MWP was a global event or localized to the northern hemisphere. Without that information, how can the know what mechanisms were driving those temperatures? Do those mechanisms exist today? Could our temperatures be caused by natural causes, and not by humans? To claim that temperatures are changed by humans then you would have to know what the temperature is supposed to be. Otherwise your placing credence in voodoo science.

    Here is an exercise for you. It is based on the earliest form of climate data manipulation. Open a spreadsheet, and type the information below. In column B, the Avg is the sum of all 10 temperatures divided by 10. Column C is the average of all 8 temperatures divided by 8.

    A B C

    1 79.0
    2 85.0
    3 98.0 96.0
    4 95.0 93.0
    5 92.0 90.0
    6 93.0 91.0
    7 97.0 95.0
    8 92.0 90.0
    9 93.0 91.0
    10 97.0 95.0


    Avg 92.1 92.6

    Conclusion: Even though all temperatures were dropped by two degrees, by not counting two of the temperatures the data shows a half degree rise. That is how easy it is to manipulate the data. Climate Scientists have been doing this for the same reason that is contributed to Corporations. Pure greed. These Scientists rake in big bucks in grant money to study their voodoo science. They are backed by Socialist Liberals looking to push a global wealth redistribution agenda. It is nothing but a huge scam bought into by you on the loony left.
     
    rkhames, Jul 27, 2015
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  17. CourtJester

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    Thank heavens for the small body of enlightened fruitcakes that are so much more knowledgable than the scientific community. What would we do without them.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 27, 2015
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  18. rkhames

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    You should always remember that a charlatan with a PHD is still a charlatan.
     
    rkhames, Jul 27, 2015
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  19. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    But a charlatan without a PHD is a Global Warming Denier.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 28, 2015
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  20. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which scientific community, those few that crave the media, the most that don't so don't make alarmist claims, or the skeptics?
     
    Hoosier8, Jul 28, 2015
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  21. Elmer Fudd

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    "Official" does not make it true, as our government has proven over and over again.
    BTW the term is "incontrovertible"
     
    Elmer Fudd, Jul 28, 2015
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    rkhames, Jul 28, 2015
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    CourtJester, Jul 29, 2015
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    The term " official " can apply to any authority. Does not apply just to government.
     
    CourtJester, Jul 29, 2015
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    CourtJester, Jul 29, 2015
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