GOP effort to stop illegal immigrants being counted for House districts, Electoral College shot down

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  1. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    GOP effort to stop illegal immigrants being counted for House districts, Electoral College shot down in Senate
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/go...sus-for-electoral-college-shot-down-in-senate


    What is going on here is something few expected the democrats to do:
    They gamed the electoral system, by moving illegals into swing states and districts, thus increasing the electoral share of their state at the expense of others. (There are a fixed number of electoral districts).
    So those 20 million new arrivals are going to be used to redirect government largess to their states, as well as house seats.
    In short, dropping our border was a power scam by our president to disenfranchise citizens from the get go.
     
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    Did anyone expect a different outcome?
     
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    DNC will control House

    DNC will control Senate

    DNC will control White House.


    What not to like.

    God Bless America!
     
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    And that will mark the end of our republic.
     
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    That’s ok. I am sure we will replace it with something else that conservative don’t like.
     
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    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone is going to like the replacement unless they work for the government or have an "in" with the power brokers in the Democrat Party. Think of the Democrat vision was one large Venezuela. It will take a decade or so to get there, but it will happen.
     
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    Thanks for the warning. But it seems like majority Americans keep rejecting conservative ideology. 7 out of 8 presidential elections, majority Americans said ‘ thanks but no thanks to conservatism”.
     
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    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    It's no surprise. The young have been taught to embrace socialism since kindergarten.

    You win! You got control of the school system. Lenin told us he would only need a generation. It has taken two generations, but he was right.
     
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    Can you tell me what is socialism?
     
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    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

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    Control of the economy by the government. The old model of the government owning the means of production is pase. That has failed too many times. Even the "bright socialists" know that.

    I know you will say that your party does not advocate socialism because the "free market" will continue to exist after you take over. There will still be "private property." but the use of it will be higher regulated. The "free market" will be a matter of opinion. The system will look very much like the Chinese system when the government controls the market by regulation and perks to political supporters. Those who don't play ball with the government will be crushed by the Justice System and bureaucratic regulations.
     
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    I can’t speak for every single Democrat/ liberal in America, but majority Democrat/ Liberals including myself don’t believe “Control of economy by the government”.

    Do we believe the government should implement regulation so Free Market can’t act without any consequence? Yes we do. But so does very conservative. The difference between conservatives and liberals in this matter is how much regulation.

    As I have said, I can’t speak for every liberal, but majority liberal/ Democrats do not advocate government control economy. Oh, by the way, no one in Western Europe is advocating such government either.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is when the shooting starts.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem to think will be good for you because you are a democrat in a two party country. In a one party country you will be under the same boot.
     
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    Oh, I agree with you. America needs Republican party as much as Democrat. I don’t want one party system. But GOP needs to join us in 21st century with 21st century ideas. Right now GOP thinks we live in 1950s.

    If GOP can't leave their dinosaur ideas and evolve, just like dinosaurs, GOP will be extinct and a new party will emerge.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What dinosaur ideas?
     
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    Every conservative ideas.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?
    In democrat ruled California the legislature and governor reclassified gig employees as "employees", meaning they could no longer determine when and when not to work. The entire essence of the gig economy was the freedom to choose when to work. How does that fit your world?
    How does this fit your liberal ideas?
    BTW, voters overturned it prompting calls from legislators to throttle citizen based petitions. Not every state has citizen petitions.
     
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    You either forgot to post some evidence or you forgot to put this in the conspiracy theory section.
     
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    The law should be changed so that illegals don't have any representation. They are here illegally and don't deserve and representation. Of course Democrats are for open borders so that illegals can have representation.
     
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    The "right to vote Democrat" before long. That's why Biden is letting them into the country. Some of them are dumb enough to come here wearing "Biden for president" t-shirts. They need to keep that down until they can hide in the shadows and stuff the ballot boxes.
     
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    First...
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    Second, I think the GOP should reconsider.

    Remove all immigrants from the Texas census and Texas loses 7 House seats.

    This idea has merit.
     

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