GOP Politicians Hate Small Business

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    I'd like to suggest ALL politicians "hate small business" if we apply your model.
     
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    Please be specific.
     
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    Trump should have offered a draft bill, and demanded that McConnell introduce such a bill.

    The RP leadership failed to offer good positive reasons for voting for its candidates. Trump's call to increase the aid to $2000 was too little too late.

    The RP could have called for things like outlawing all retail sales taxes on retailers with less that 15 employees to compensate them for the massive tax breaks given to their Big Bad Business competitors.

    The RP could have called for national CCW, and other legislation to encourage ordinary Americans to arm themselves without government interference. CCW is very popular.
     
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    Most professional pols probably do hate small business, and all of them know that small businesses can't match Big Bad Business when it comes to bribe money.

    A political party that actually liked small business would be pushing for the elimination of sales taxes for small retailers, and for the elimination of other taxes which give Big Business a decisive advantage over smaller competitors.
     
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    But the ability to tax discriminately is exactly the bilge that fills the swamp. The pols will never give up that delicious intoxicating nectar known as swamp water.
     
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    How long did our crooked politicians let Amazon operate without collecting sales taxes? ;-)
     
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    This is not entirely accurate. Amazon collected sales tax where required by jurisdiction. The laws had to be changed, specifically the ‘commercial nexus,’ and did not apply only to Amazon, but to any party that shipped across state lines. Also good to keep in mind that sales tax is paid by the consumer, not by the merchant, so really this was the crooked politicians once again soaking the little guy.

    Side note: careful what you wish for. Now because of South Dakota V Wayfair, even “casual sales” are now being taxed, though no state generally assesses sales tax on a casual sale.
     
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    What is the difference?
     
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    No one but me defines capitalism as 'profit seeking enterprise'? Okay then.
     
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    No, that's not what I mean .. but thanks!

    What I meant was that a capitalist enterprise is a capitalist enterprise, regardless of who owns it. If it's engaged in capitalism (pursuit of profit, buying/selling labour, etc), then it's capitalism.
     
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    Seriously?
     
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    But that is what I was referring to.

    The best example is a series of airplanes that were sold worldwide. They were made by the firm of Mikoyan-Guravich, or the MiG company
     
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    You are probably right. A single business in any economic system can do that. A car repair shop in Havana can seek and make a profit within a communist system. Profit is nothing more than an essential part of operating a non-subsidised business. Profit isn't really a cornerstone of capitalism. Capitalism is private enterprise engaged in competition. Competition is the cornerstone.
     
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    The essence of free private enterprise is independence. It isn't rocket science.
     
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    The small businesses were compelled by government to jack up the price of their goods to include a sales tax. Amazon was not required to do that for many years. This gave them a significant competitive advantage.

    Small business has apparently been targeted for destruction by American governments for some time. This has become especially obvious during the CCP/China pandemic.
     
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    Very true..

    Note the date ;)
     
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    So, the corrupt American politicians engaged in business relationships with CCP/PLA/PLAN SOE's are not actually communist spies - they are just greedy capitalists in business with the CCP and its military. ;-)
     
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    IMO, Amazon is a corrupt criminal enterprise that thrives on the advantages it has been given by our corrupt ruling political class.
     
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    Absolutely, it's the easiest way to get super rich.. Tax's are for suckers, political payoffs are "FTW" ;)
     
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    I'm sorry but your facts are just wrong. Prior to Wayfair, a reseller of goods was not required by federal law to collect sales tax. The only way sales tax could be required was if there was a commercial nexus -- ie a physical location in the state to which the goods are being shipped. The reason being the receiving state had no tax jurisdiction in a different state. This applied to any reseller shipping across state lines. The USSC ended this with the Wayfair decision. Wrongly, in my view.

    Small business can't buy politicians.
     
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    No. Amazon is the most successful retailer on the planet by developing the most innovative and efficient business ever imagined.

    Like most successful companies -- Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, most of the Fortune 500, and even the Trump Organization -- Amazon has minimized its exposure to tax law by carefully practicing the strategy of tax balancing. The problem is not the entities who legally pay the lowest tax possible (and why would you pay more than you had to), but it is the 100,000+ page IRS code.
     
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    If you can anybody with law enforcement power to join you, you can charge the principles with crimes and prosecute them. Unfortunately nobody will join you.
     
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    1. "Amazon.com originally collected sales tax only from five states as of 2011..." wiki

    2. Yes, small businesses cannot buy politicians. Big Business, like Amazon, can buy them. That was my point.
     
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    Of course not. A corrupt ruling political class will always position itself well above the law.
     
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    Yes, Big Business can lobby for tax breaks. Small businesses take it in the head.

    1. "Amazon.com originally collected sales tax only from five states as of 2011..." wiki

    Tax free sales gave a significant competitive advantage to Amazon, and helped it expand into the anti-competitive monstrosity that it has become. The thing should have been broken up years ago.

    IMO, small businesses should be favored over Big Businesses by law - especially the tax codes.

    Instead Amazon, Walmart, Target and the other giant retailers were allowed to operate while small businesses were shut down by law.
     

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