GOP vaccine resistance confronting Biden has deep roots

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  1. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    A vaccine that has passed trials but was never approved by the FDA until it was needed to be. So it's either a case of not being good enough until it was politically convenient or it's a matter of them not spending the proper amount of time on the Covid 19 strand when it's still so new. So which is it and why should I trust it?
     
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    No, I cannot blame them. I took both jabs before it was cool (back in January). I took the booster as well, but enough is enough, partly for the reasons you mention.

    Granted, a majority of the currently hospitalized are unvaccinated, but what percent of the unvaccinated are being infected and actually getting sick? Do we know this number?
     
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  3. Zorro

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    Looks like yet another false claim:
    An unsupported assertion and given the track record, that's not a surprise. Nationally it's the GOP that are far more numerous since COVID hit and Dems who have seen declines in their ranks.

    And now FL:

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    When COVID hit: 5,145,706 Democrats in FL
    Today? Only 5,093,711 Democrats in FL.

    When COVID hit: Only 4,857,071 Republicans in FL
    Today? 5,131,547 Republicans in FL

    So riddle me this: If the pandemic killed Republicans in disproportionate numbers in FL, how is it that during the pandemic it was Democrats that decreased in numbers, by -51,995; while the GOP gained 274,476 in numerical strength?

    The inference to the best explanation? Your unsupported assertion is more confabbery.

    Ron II is Right!

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    Freedom, Liberty and TRUST the folks you are honor bound to represent to make wise and prudent decisions if you are simply honest about the situation.

    God Bless you Ron and hopes for healing to your precious wife.
     
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  4. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Here we go again.

    The guy doesn't understand that there's no connection between political registration and the political affiliation of COVID victims...

    Reading you, it's easy to see why 55% of Republicans believe in the Big Lie.
     
  5. Zorro

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    You claimed that Republicans are disportionately dying of COVID even though there is no system that tracks COVID death by party affiliation, and it's the Dems who have lost numbers through COVID while the GOP ranks have swelled.

    Further, your claim is fake news: "56 percent of all likely voters," not just Republicans, correctly assess that "it is likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election."

    Even 32% of Democrats think Joe Biden cheated.

    Voters are deeply concerned about cheating in connection with mail-in voting. Sixty-five percent of ALL likely voters believe it will lead to more cheating in elections.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebec...ng-affected-outcome-of-2020-election-n2597481

    If you believe that Republicans died of COVID, in excess of their proportion, how do you explain that during the COVID era Republicans gained strength in numbers while it's Democrats who have declined?
     
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  6. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    A Pathetic Extreme-RW Push Poll (of extremely dubious "methodology")?
    They've got to be kidding.:bored:

    Anyway, back to the OP, I really don't think the GOP "Vaccine Resistance" will ever change.
     
  7. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Establishing a correlation between political affiliation and COVID mortality is so simple.

    I'm not going to explain the NYT's methodology to you again.... for a fourth time?

    I have explained it to you several times but you don't understand.

    I will try another method, but this is the last one.

    From March to June 2021, the proportion of Republicans went from 29% to 24%.

    So by your relentless logic, millions of Republicans died during that period.

    No, of course.

    Because there are a lot of Republicans who became independent during this period.

    So even if conservatives are hit harder by COVID, it is quite possible that their proportion will increase because a significant number of independents consider themselves Republicans during the same period.
     
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    Correlation isn't causation and you don't even have correlation. Worse, you don't even have data. All you have is wish-casting, and it's not even your own, it's the NYT's. As soon as you saw that there is no tracking by party affiliation you knew that you didn't even have fog.
    I grasp it perfectly, it's vacuous, endlessly repeating an empty set does not fill it, it remains empty.
    More fake news. March to June 2021 the GOP measurement went from 25% to 24%. https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx Given the margin of error, statistically unchanged.

    However, YOU posted on the OP that the GOP was dying at a disproportionate rate, due to not being vaccinated, this was in response to the rise of overall deaths from the Delta surge, but, when checking the actual numbers through the Delta surge, one quickly sees that while Republicans by more than 29%, that it was Democrats who decreased a full 10%.

    So, I'll ask you again, if it's Republicans that have been dying disproportionately of COVID, why is that the GOP has increased by over 29% while Dems have decreased by 10%?

    Over the last year while vaccines have been available and widely utilized more Americans died of COVID than during 2020 when no vaccines were available.

    And, don't even get me started on Florida.

    If the pandemic killed Republicans in disproportionate numbers in FL, how is it that during the pandemic it was Democrats that decreased in numbers, by -51,995; while the GOP gained 274,476 in number?

    Your claim makes zero sense. It's essentially ghoulish wishcasting. Here are the facts.

    i) We are closing in on million dead from COVID.
    ii) You make the unsupported assertion that more Republicans are dying than Democrats, despite possessing zero tracking of deaths by political affiliation.
    iii) Republican numbers are surginging while Democrats are dwindling.
    iv) The inference to the best explanation is that your claim, ii), is utter crap.

    We see the fake news disinformation spaying this crap all over like a dog that got into the Halloween chocolate and I'm grateful to have a forum like this where we can dig into it and show it for the complete silliness that it is.
     
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    I will get the vaccine the very day all mandates, lockdowns, mask mandates and restrictions if any kind are removed.

    Until then, do your worst.
     
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    Fake News. You claim vaccine hesitancy was resulting in Republicans dying out of proportion, but, during the time vaccines have been available, it's Dems who have declined by 14% while the GOP has grown by 18%. That's a 32% swing in the GOP's favor. Whoever is feeding you this crap appears to need a new calculator.

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    What the hell happened to the Democrats in 2021?
     

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