Great Moments in Gun Control Irony

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, but in a sense this demonstrates how ignorant Conservatives are about the other half.

    And I wouldn't say 'violent' necessarily, but just tendency to be more impulsive and lacking in self control / responsibility.
     
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  2. Bisquit

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    I see no need to address your claims about Los Angeles, since this incident happened in Georgia.
     
  3. Bisquit

    Bisquit Well-Known Member

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    My claim that an opinion based on speculation is hardly worth belief? Sorry buddy. Your request is absurd.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And our celebrities who enjoy armed security don't see the need for the second amendment. None are so blind as he who refuses to see.
     
  5. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you an aussie?

    Wasn't the crime rate falling before and after as well?
     
  6. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    No, your claim that "right wingers spout silly unfounded claims."

    I imagine that you'll define in your study, what constitutes a claim, how to define right wingers, establishing a control group of left wingers, define silly, and what constitutes an unfounded claim.

    I anxiously wait your study.
     
  7. Bisquit

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    Not an Aussie.
    Whether or not crime rate was falling before is not relevant according to many gun nut statements. They often claim the gun crime rate has fallen since the easing of concealed and open carry restrictions with no consideration of the reduction of those numbers before the new laws took effect. Why should that be an issue now, after being ignored for so long?
     
  8. Bisquit

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    There will be no study. I rarely take on such a project at the insistence of some silly anonymous poster who has earned no credibility in my opinion. I will give a recent example though. A few minutes ago, Tucker Carlson aired a commercial claiming our 2nd amendment would soon be repealed because 4 supreme court justices had already stated we have no right to defend ourselves in our own home. Our only hope to save the 2nd was to support Trump's SC nominee. The commercial was an obvious silly lie intended to stir up gun nuts.
     
  9. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its very relevent and the trend has been mirrored in other nations as well. Selectively examining a certain time period to make a case when a more comprehensive examination shows it was part of a longstanding trend before and after-which suggests the law did not decrease crime.

    Conversely, concealed carry proves crime has not risen.
     
  10. 61falcon

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    GUN COTROL another oxy-moron!!
     
  11. Bisquit

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    Crime was falling before concealed carry. It can't be used as a reason for falling crime rates.
     
  12. Battle3

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    Australia is a Western industrialized nation culturally similar to the USA. The comparison regarding gun control/gun rights is valid.

    The Clinton Assault Weapons Ban was ineffective. As part of the legislation, the Urban Institute (a lefty group) was tasked with evaluating the impact of the ban, the Urban Institute concluded the ban had no measurable effect. The decline in crime rates was not due to the Clinton ban. Read the Urban Institute report.

    And if the ban was effective, then when the ban expired why did the crime rates drop?

    And if guns are so bad, then why isn't the USA awash in violent crime? Over the past 20 years, gun ownership has skyrocketed, gun restrictions have been removed or eased, yet gun crime and violent crime has decreased. More guns did not result in more crime. Your thesis is wrong, it does not match the data in the USA or AUS.
     
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  13. Lil Mike

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    You've presented no data. Post the commercial and we can go from there.
     
  14. IggySoda

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    Georgia. Amirite?
     
  15. RichT2705

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    She ran for Office as a Democrat and has the usual Democrat platforms including the "sensible gun control" BS..... Yes, she does represent the Democrat party.
    Who else would she represent?
     
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    By an anti-gun liberal, upset at Hillary's loss?
    No.
     
  17. TOG 6

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    Meanwhile, as crime fell, the number of guns increased by tens of millions.
    So much for more guns = more crime.
     
  18. TOG 6

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    Cite, please.
    Nice post hoc fallacy you have there.

    See below.
    Explain how the 1994 'assault weapon' ban did anything to reduce the number of guns and overall gun-related crime.

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  19. Bisquit

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    Your previous post was shown to be either complete ignorance or a blatant lie. I suspect a little of both. Anything more that you might say is a waste of my time.
     
  20. Bisquit

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    Sorry Mikey. Like I said before. I have no desire or need to convince you of anything. You've made it clear to me that facts mean nothing to you. Your mind is made up anyway.
     
  21. Mike Mule

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    Is the weapon control we have now, sensible? Should we allow the private ownership of missile launchers and atomic bombs?
     
  22. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    You've presented no facts and ignored my requests for them, but thanks for playing.
     
  23. TOG 6

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    Speaking of facts... I see you haven't addressed post #68.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    I'm sorry maybe it's because I'm Not a Hipster or that I'm not down with the edgy new way of speaking but I don't see any irony and people being murdered.
     
  25. Battle3

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    You provided no data at all.

    My data comes from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, and the Australia Bureau of Statistics Crime Reports and Crime Database. All available on the web.

    So run away little one, come play again another day when your tail isn't tucked between your legs.
     
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