Gun control - Why punish the law abiding rather than the criminals?

Like I said, why make things up?

 

As far as I know, the NRA's answer to gun violence is more guns.

It's all over their site.

So if that's not their answer (or yours), then what is?

 

All you have to do is find where the NRA said
"The NRA's idea that every man, woman, and child has to arm themselves with a high powered rifle to defend themselves against everyone else toting high powered rifles in school, church, at concerts, shopping, or wherever, sounds like punishment for the "law abiding" to me."
and then it is no longer made up.

 

Oh for god's sake...you got me!!

They never said those exact words.

Is everyone 10 years old on this site?

So anyway, how are people supposed to defend themselves? What does the NRA suggest? What do you suggest?

When someone, anyone, is at a concert or in church or at school or shopping, or anywhere else, how should they defend themselves?

 

Or anything close to that.

 

It doesn't change the basic point.

The law abiding living in fear of mass gun shootings seems like punishment to me.

Why don't you answer my question?

 

Easier. Less dangerous targets.

Like going after marijuana smokers instead of methamphetamine users.

 

I don't know of anyone living in fear of a mass gun shooting. If they are, they are seriously misguided. There are hundreds of ways more likely to cause their death than that. We can blame a lot of this on the media.

 

So just live your life and hope nothing bad happens.

That's the NRA's answer to self-defense? That's your answer?

If you can't answer my simple question, than I will assume you nor the NRA actually have an answer.

 

I keep guns in my home for self defense. I don't feel the need to carry them anywhere else. I trust other people to do what they believe is necessary.

That is an incredibly stupid comment. I take normal precautions like being careful where I cross the street, etc. I watch my blood pressure, etc.

 

What good is a gun for self defense if you don't have it on you at all times?

That sounds like most of the time you are going with "I hope nothing happens".

 

You aren't simply asking a question, you are intentionally framing a subject in a way that has nothing to do with the subject.

 

It's whatever we say it is and the thing you can't have.

 

Primarily because of where I live. A long way from law enforcement.

That is still an incredibly stupid comment.

 

Each era has had its problems. During the '30's we had bank robbers, killers, and the rise of the Mafia caused by prohibition. In the 40's we had WWII, the worst war in man's history, and the rise of the communist threat. During the '50's, '60's, '70's, and '80's we had the Cold War, and I can still remember the fear of the atomic bomb. In the late '60's early '70's we had Vietnam and volatile protests. Through it all we have had racial strife. In the 2000's we had an extremely unpopular war and increased involvement in the volatile Middle East. Thousand of Americans were killed and wounded. We also had the Great Recession.

Then we elected a black President and mass shootings increased exponentially followed by a President who inspires violence with his inflammatory rhetoric. The same President whose followers are members of a cult. They don't know why they support Trump. They just do.

It doesn't seem like it, but we will get through this. We always do.

I think. .

 

So in other words, you mainly rely on professionals to protect you?

Why?

If guns are the answer to self-defense, not having one won't work. It's like wearing a seat belt only a 1/3 of the time.

You seem to know what the NRA's solution is...what is it?

 

That's your opinion, delusional but your entitled to it.

 

I think your post about the "current militia" is hilariously delusional.

 

I don't wear a seat belt when I am not driving. I do not carry a gun when I think there is little need, which is most of the time.

 

I could see how you would given you don't know squat about gun owners.

 

Do you think the people in El Paso or the ones in church or in their synagogue or in school thought there was a need?

What is the NRAs solution to gun violence other than protecting one's self with a gun, or, doing as you're doing and simply thinking there is no need at certain times?

You gave me crap about what I said the NRA's answer is so please tell me what they actually suggest.

 

Do you carry your gun 24/7?

If not, why not?

What does the NRA suggest as far as self-defense goes?

 

You are missing my point. The chances of getting killed in an El Paso or Dayton type event are incredibly remote. You can spend all your waking moments worrying about such events happening, but I won't. Worry about heart disease or eating your self to death. Such things like that are how you are likely to die.

 

Some gun owners see guns as moral and seek to enforce their morality on others.

 

The NRA doesn't suggest anything other than that being armed is much better than being a victim. The MSM will never report such things but everyday across America gun owners successfully defend themselves and their families. It's nobody's business when I carry but I refuse to be a victim and will defend myself if necessary. I don't want to give away too much but I grew up in a kinder more civil America and carrying a firearm was not necessary. It wasn't unusual for police officers to retire never having once pulled their firearm out. The times have changed and we are living in an absolute sewer and that is linked directly to permissive attitudes about everything. Today children are growing up with huge chunks of social controls missing in their psychological makeup. They are deluged with absolute garbage in every form of media including public education and with no other point of reference they're assimilating it. The instance of every single negative behavior has risen exponentially and not only does nobody care it's celebrated by this perverse society we live in. So it's no surprise that violent crime has become a fact of life in America, that genie is out of the bottle. The notion of gun control is ridiculous. it will not change anything and create even more victims. Regulations and banning certain firearms changes nothing because all guns, any gun kills. The second amendment guarantees total confiscation will never happen, so barring that we can only work to make sure that guns only end up in responsible hands. Unless society does some serious soul searching and stops turning away from God, all of what I had to say about society will continue and the violence will worsen. Think about this, the cost of becoming an educated, responsible gun owner is not terribly expensive but also not cheap but what's your life worth? Or your spouses, children or grandchildren?