I MOST CERTAINLY CAN compare crime rates. What's the matter, you don't like being number 1??? Sorry to disillusion you but ANY bar fight gets counted the same way it does in the western half of Australia.
Really? The quote from Wiki suggests that not all your crime data is collected oh! And BTW how is "spitting" classified in terms of crime in the US?
What are these percentages based upon? If it was based upon population, then wouldn't that simply imply that Australia would be higher up that the US, simply because it had a smaller population? - - - Updated - - - What are these percentages based upon? If it was based upon population, then wouldn't that simply imply that Australia would be higher up that the US, simply because it had a smaller population?
ahhhhhhhhhhh, so people are registered like cars.................nice, real nice..............kinda like slaves, eh?
And I would love to compare what the homicide stats are in the other nations in your part of the world compared to yours. Here, I'll go first with the Americas; Homicides per 100,00 Honduras 91.6 Americas Central America El Salvador 69.2 Americas Central America Venezuela 45.1 Americas South America Belize 41.4 Americas Central America Guatemala 38.5 Americas Central America Guatemala 38.5 Americas Central America Colombia 31.4 Americas South America Mexico 22.7 Americas Northern America Panama 21.6 Americas Central America Brazil 21.0 Americas South America Guyana 18.6 Americas South America Ecuador 18.2 Americas South America Nicaragua 13.6 Americas Central America French Guiana 13.3 Americas South America Bermuda 12.3 Americas Northern America Paraguay 11.5 Americas South America Peru 10.3 Americas South America Costa Rica 10.0 Americas Central America Bolivia 8.9 Americas South America Uruguay 5.9 Americas South America United States 4.8 Americas Northern America Suriname 4.6 Americas South America Argentina 3.4 Americas South America Chile 3.2 Americas South America Canada 1.6 Americas Northern America In our neck of the woods we come in at 4th lowest. Now, shall we take a look at yours?? Homicides Per 100,000 Papua New Guinea 13.0 Oceania Melanesia Nauru 9.8 Oceania Micronesia Kiribati 7.3 Oceania Micronesia Solomon Islands 3.7 Oceania Melanesia Fiji 2.8 Oceania Melanesia Samoa 1.1 Oceania Polynesia Tonga 1.0 Oceania Polynesia Australia 1.0 Oceania Australasia New Zealand 0.9 Oceania Australasia Vanuatu 0.9 Oceania Melanesia Guam 0.6 Oceania Micronesia French Polynesia 0.4 Oceania Polynesia Palau 0.0 Oceania Micronesia Federated States of Micronesia 0.9 Oceania Micronesia Australia is tied for 7th lowest. It would seem that in your neck of the woods your murder rate is higher than 1/2 of your neighbors while here in the U.S. there are 3/4 of our neighbors with a higher murder rate than us. Isn't looking real good for Australia in that light. And Australia has a higher rape rate than the U.S.. Try getting around that one with your, "We go by different stats than you do", nonsense. As I have pointed out, you take one thing and try to build a , "We're better than you", garbage with it. Your country is more violent than we are with less ways to protect yourselves. I'll keep my weapons and stay here, thank you very much, and you can stay there, we don't want you here, and I will keep pointing out how violent Australia is every time to try to trash the U.S..
Shall we take a look at what the word, %, percent, means??? per·cent /pərˈsent/ Adverb By a specified amount in or for every hundred. Noun One part in every hundred. Synonyms percentage - rate And more silly questions??
She has a point in that where did you get those stats? Are they a percentage of total population or percentage of rise in rate? My guess is Nationmaster and even they have this caveat http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_vic-crime-rape-victims
The issues. 1. Crime rates. As has been explained because of various factors in various jurisdictions comparisons are difficult, if not simplistic. I still haven't seen the source for the list. 2. Firearms control laws. The purpose of these is to reduce the harm from lawful firearms ownership. 3. Firearms for self-defence carried by non-law enforcent persons as a matter of course. In the US yes, it makes sense. In Australia, no, it doesn't make sense. One reason is that there are far more firearms per capita in the US than in Australia. Firearms are part of everyday life in the US, not so in Australia. The fear of becoming a victim to a violent criminal is probably lesser in Australia than in the US so the idea that Australians need to carry firearms for self-defence is not high in the minds of the population.
No guns=more crime? Easy to claim it, now prove it. How about guns everywhere=less crime, like to try that one? I'm obviously not one of the people who believe you are all murderers. As for the crime rates, again the point has been made many times, statistical comparisons are so difficult as to be perhaps useless. As for government, we differ - here we make sure governments do what we elect them to do, we're not scared of them.
Is there a point you're trying to make here? If so it's not clear. From your list the homicide rate in Australia is 1:100,000. It appears our rate is slightly higher. http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html You show the US rate at 4.8 per 100,000 - source unknown. The ranking idea is ridiculous.
Australia is far from crime ridden, but - from the studies I remember - crime has jumped in recent years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics Total count Rate per 100,000 population Year 2010 United States of America 27.3 Australia 28.6 United Kingdom (England and Wales) 28.8 Sweden 63.5 NEXT????
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm United States Crime Index Rates Per 100,000 Inhabitants 2011 murder 4.7 What's ridiculous about it?? I'm just showing that in that part of the world Australia's murder rate isn't all that great as they are tied for 7th highest with only 6 countries having a larger murder rate than them. The majority of those countries are not armed. In this part of the world the U.S murder rate isn't all that bad as we are number 21 out of 24 placing us real close to the bottom. And most ALL the other nations in the America's are armed. So tell me, what do you find wrong with the comparison??
If you are not afraid of your government than my friend you are a fool. Government has murdered more of it's citizens in the last 100 years than wars.
Yep! and like a lot of other countries is now declining again - until the next spike - - - Updated - - - How where and why?
Different societal attitudes to reporting, different classifications of reporting FROM THAT LINK Oh and USA Cherry pick much???
May I remind you that this thread was started by Whaler17, whose implicit proposition it is that Australia and the UK are more violent societies than the USA - the reason being the lack of guns amongst the populace. It was not the lady from Australia who was 'trashing' another society. As Bowerbird pointed out, the difference in reporting standards make comparisons difficult in cases such as sexual assault - which may be interpreted and recorded differently in various societies. The same applies to assault - in Australia and the UK, a verbal threat is recorded as assault if the recipient feels threatened. Recorded fatalities, and their causes, are the few incidents which are unequivocal enough to form the basis of comparison between developed societies. Which brings me to the point of my post. This is a discussion forum, the purpose of which is to examine various propositions put by contributors. Questioning the proposal that Australia and the UK are more violent societies than the USA, is not 'trashing' the USA, or asserting "We are better than you" - it is merely questioning an as yet unproven claim. From responses such as yours, it would appear that some Americans are offended by the concept that the USA may not be the best of all possible societies - in every respect. It is not, and neither is any other society - we all do some things well and other things less well. Americans have built an industrial/military complex the like of which the world has not heretofore seen - of that they may be justifiably proud. Other societies are not without their achievements, and that mythical beast - 'the best country in the world' - depends very much upon one's value systems.
Just like a Lib to give life to an inanimate object. Nope, can't possibly be the mind behind it. Because if we blamed the damaged brains ( where the blame really lies), then ya'll wouldn't have an excuse to blame something else.
Oh Well! If you want to skew statistics then go ahead noted that the only way you could get USA near the bottom of any list is include third world countries with unstable governments with poor infrastructure (few police) Then you compare US with places like "Palau"
mhmm. if I remember right, you guys enacted something similiar to the London gun reforms, right? Such changes always have really nasty short-term results (at least usually, because they're usually not carefully thought out or gradually implemented). In the long-term, from what I've seen, the negative results aren't as nasty as at first sight, but still present.
Australia has seen a near 50% reduction in deaths from gunshot wounds since the 1996 legislation and gun buy-back was enacted. I would not consider that an entirely negative result. When discussing crime in the UK and Australia, we need to bear in mind that neither has historically had an armed population, so the removal of certain categories of weapons may not have as significant an effect as in a substantially armed population such as that of the USA. Nevertheless, and irrespective of other crime statistics, the impact upon death from firearm has been considerable in Australia. The UK (where even the Bobby on the beat is unarmed) has historically had a low death-by-firearm figure, but at 39 in 2012, it also is at an all time low.
U.S. murders per 100,000 1980 10.2 2011 4.7 We cut the murder rate since 1980 by the citizens buying more gun.
When you look at it with blinders on yes, it achieves it's goal, but you've got to look at other effects. That'd be like looking at an all meat diet designed for increasing strength, and looking at increased muscle growth and saying, "hey! it's a complete success!" That would require ignoring changes in other measurements of health, which are almost entirely negative.
Yes but the Caribbean is a ruddy sight smaller than INDONESIA which is our closest neighbour I wonder what would happen if you also included Borneo, Malaysia, Singapore and if you want to play games let us break up indonesia into provinces as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia
