Hagel proposed a budget this week to cut troops to 1940 levels

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Photoman, Mar 2, 2014.

?

Do you agree with troop cuts?

  1. yes

    12 vote(s)
    52.2%
  2. no

    11 vote(s)
    47.8%
  1. Photoman

    Photoman New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I do not agree with this cut. When other country's have millions of soldiers. We are heading back to pearl Harbor days. Do you agree with troop cuts?
     
  2. SteveJa

    SteveJa New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    2,378
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Not at all
     
    Photoman and (deleted member) like this.
  3. goober

    goober New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    6,057
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How many teats do you think the bull should have?
     
  4. Photoman

    Photoman New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    i don't know about teats but we need as many troops as we can get
     
  5. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, I agree. Except for the fact that those 40,000 being cut will soon be joining the labor force. They should be kept in the military until there is a labor shortage.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Why? We had a many troops as we needed for Afgh. and Iraq and still couldn't pull of a victory.
     
  6. Photoman

    Photoman New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2014
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    you scared we will get into another Afgh' or another Iraq. there is a difference in defending or border at home then abroad
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,784
    Likes Received:
    27,317
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Countries.

    And yes. We need massive military cuts. The global empire is bankrupting us.
     
  8. Pronin24

    Pronin24 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2014
    Messages:
    4,106
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is a splendid idea. Let others to fight for their freedoms and forget to use us to fight for them. Our military budget is surpassing 13 biggest next powers combined! To what end?
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly, the British Empire was the dominant power throughout the 19th century because their Navy was estimated to be able to fight and beat any TWO other Navies in the world and they knew from their own experience, rightly, that no coalition of more than 2 Great Powers would last for long. We now have a Navy that can easily beat THREE, or maybe FOUR and possibly every other Navy in the world combined.

    It's ridiculous, we are doing to the US what killed the Soviet Union; by neglecting our infrastructure we are becoming a Third World country to support a Superpower military, and the irony is our opponent in this arms race is ourselves.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    41,184
    Likes Received:
    16,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ONE submarine armed with 24 Trident missiles, each with MIRV warheads, can destroy over 100 cities and this would surely ignite vast firestorms and rain down a hell of radioactivity that would kill everyone within a several thousand square mile area. One of these subs, which can be at any point in the world's oceans at any time could thus kill millions upon millions of people in the blink of an eye. We have (I think) 12.

    Yet strangely, a cadre of hill bandits in Toyota trucks can successfully hold us off for years.

    It is high time that we recognize that our vast numbers of tanks and huge aircraft carriers have been obsolete for years. It is a truism that militaries always fight the last war, but is may be a fatal mistake this time.
     
  11. longknife

    longknife New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2012
    Messages:
    6,840
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    0
    My biggest question about the troops cuts is - who will they cut? The generals and senior civilian employees who never seem to go away? Or the poor grunts who don't make one tenth of the above?
     
  12. goober

    goober New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2008
    Messages:
    6,057
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I go with the conservative position here, and follow Grover Norquist.
    I believe an 80% cut in the military budget would leave us with a solid defense, only the useless parts of the military would need to be removed to attain this.
    I mean it's the basis of the Bush Tax Cuts, they actually would have worked if we had followed through and cut the Pentagon by 80%, like the plan called for.
     
  13. Crawdadr

    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    7,293
    Likes Received:
    1,495
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As long as the Navy and nuclear arm of the military is capable and we continue with research and development I am ok with personnel cuts. Our military needs to adapt to the current world and large militarily are for countries that cannot keep pace with technology. North Korea has a massive army but does anyone here actually think it would do them a bit of good if we decided to end them? China too has a massive army which is great for defense but without ships we could really care less about them militarily. (economically is a different story)
     
  14. amartin7889

    amartin7889 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Do you have absolutely any evidence to back this up, or are you just going to write two sentences and expect us to take your word for it?
     
  15. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2010
    Messages:
    26,347
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I suspect you probably agreed with the cuts when Cheney and Rumsfeld were cutting troops and consolidating bases all over the country. But I don't agree with troop cuts. I would agree with brass cuts. AND, contrary to Romney's opinion, we do not need more battleships.
     
  16. amartin7889

    amartin7889 Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2013
    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    28
  17. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Imperialism is expensive.

    Why not cut the military? Because people are convinced that other countries dislike us because of our freedoms?
     

Share This Page