Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    again with the lies.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    Only historical facts.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Article 80 says the rights go away when the agreement is concluded.

    UN concluded the agreement.

    deal with it.
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    The UN concluded the British Mandate, but was never cocnluded the document of the Mandate.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so who is managing the Mandate?

    who is implementing it?

    who is overseeing it?

    nobody.

    you lose
     
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    I love how zionist point and follow wich ever UN mandate or resolution is convenient while ignoring the rest. Most in fact. All the while while violating international laws and human rights. They argue laws and resolutions while they ignore them.

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    The first UN General Assembly resolution—Number 194— affirming the right of Palestinians to return to their homes and property, was passed on December 11, 1948. It has been repassed no less than twenty-eight times since that first date. Whereas the moral and political right of a person to return to his place of uninterrupted residence is acknowledged everywhere, Israel has negated the possibility of return... [and] systematically and juridically made it impossible, on any grounds whatever, for the Arab Palestinian to return, be compensated for his property, or live in Israel as a citizen equal before the law with a Jewish Israeli.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”
     
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    There is special committee in the UN for managing Madates. It's called trusteeship council.
     
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    when they do this, it helps me understand why so many people hate the Israeli govt
     
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    UNGA resolutions are not binding, but only recommandations.
     
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    UNGAR are taken very seriously. Those that ignore them suffer consequences which you appear not to understand.

    In the world of the neoZionist charlatan it appears that the United Nations is powerless to act at all without full Security Council approval of a Chapter 7 Resolution. That's clearly a nonsense.
     
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    They can be taken seriously, and still UNGA resolutions are not binding.
     
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    hahahaah!!!!!!

    they suspended operations in 1993, when the last Trusteeship territory gained independence.

    http://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/trusteeship-council/index.html

    nevermind the fact that responsibility for the Mandate for Palestine was handed over to the Palestine Commission, which adjurned on May 17, 1948.

    https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unis...700643573?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,commission
     
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    Correct they suspended theyr operations, but according to Article 80 that keep the document of the Mandate valid, the UN still need to fulfill the document of the Mandate.
     
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    until the agreement is concluded, which it was.

    you got nothing.
     
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    The UN concluded the British Mandate, but was never cocnluded the document of the Mandate.
     
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    sure they did, you just enjoy denying it
     
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    But human rights and international law which Israel breaks are. These are recommendations that Israel should follow these laws. Especially as a member of UN. It minus well be binding itself. You don't need redundancy to establish a binding.
     
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    and yet you say Oslo Accords WERE concluded even though they are still being enforced by Israel and the Palestinians.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Neah mate. A country like Iraq made it illegal for Jews to leave. And yet they went by the 1000's. And when Iraq gave up that policy the Israeli Jews put in their plan called "Operation Ezra and Nehemiah" to airlift them all out. That is all leaving the place voluntary. And indeed, when those Iraqi's freely moved to Israel, the enemy of Iraq, meant they committed high treason that went hand in hand with consequences. The only nazi-like regime there was, was in Israel,... where they ethnically cleansed people with pogroms and thieved their stuff while those people wanted to remain there.
     
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    You know the apartheid state Israel occupies their land, and ethnic cleanse them. Maybe that has something to do with it.
     
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    I'm not denying nothing, only stating historical facts.
     
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    Again... I can not prove Israel claimed only Jews received Israeli citizenship and no Arabs, because it did not happen. And you can not claim Israel did claim only jews were given Israeli citizenship. Clear and simple.
     
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    According to the Oslo Accords itself, it was valid 5 years from the day it was signed on by the parties. Hence, the accords were valid until 2000. It's according Artcile 5 of the Accords.
     
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    As a mamber of the UN, and as an organization as the UN, they must respect and fulfill the UN Charter. Hence, it must fulfill Article 80 of the UN Charter. Which means, Judea and Samaria, by Article 80 that protects the rights that were granted to the Jews over the Land of Israel (= "Palestine") in the document of the Mandate, is lawfully for Jewish settlements and finally to be under control of the Jews.

    All resolutions that say otherwise are been ontradicted by the UN Charter.
     
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    you dont know what you are talking about

    1948, the year of Israel's independence was a rough year for the Jews of Iraq:

    • In July 1948, the government passed a law making all Zionist activity punishable by execution, with a minimum sentence of seven years imprisonment.
    • On August 28, 1948, Jews were forbidden to engage in banking or foreign currency transactions.
    • In September 1948, Jews were dismissed from the railways, the post office, the telegraph department and the Finance Ministry on the ground that they were suspected of "sabotage and treason".
    • On October 8, 1948, the issuance of export and import licenses to Jewish merchants was forbidden.
    • On October 19, 1948, the discharge of all Jewish officials and workers from all governmental departments was ordered.
    • In October, the Egyptian paper, El-Ahram, estimated that as a result of arrests, trials and sequestration of property, the Iraqi treasury collected some 20 million dinars or the equivalent of 80 million U.S. dollars.
    • On December 2, 1948, the Iraq government suggested to oil companies operating in Iraq that no Jewish employees be accepted.[24]

    Hoping to stem the flow of assets from the country, in March 1950 Iraq passed a law of one year duration allowing Jews to emigrate on condition of relinquishing their Iraqi citizenship.

    Nuri al-Said, the Iraqi prime minister, was determined to drive the Jews out of his country as quickly as possible,[28][30][31] and on August 21, 1950 he threatened to revoke the license of the company transporting the Jewish exodus if it did not fulfill its daily quota of 500 Jews. On September 18, 1950, Nuri al-Said summoned a representative of the Jewish community and claimed Israel was behind the emigration delay, threatening to "take them to the borders" and forcibly expel the Jews[28][28] The law expired in March 1951 but was later extended after the Iraqi government froze the assets of departing Jews, including those who had already left.

    According to Palestinian politician Aref al-Aref, the pro-British Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Sa'id had attempted to justify allowing the exodus by explaining to him that: ”The Jews have always been a source of evil and harm to Iraq. They are spies. They have sold their property in Iraq, they have no land among us that they can cultivate. How therefore can they live? What will they do if they stay in Iraq? No, no my friend, it is better for us to be rid of them as long as we are able to do so."
     

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