Hamas created with Israel's help

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    'On June 7, 2005, BBC radio news reported that British officials were to meet the Islamic organisation Hamas at ‘low levels …

    'The report was an example of how secret history is kept secret, for no mention was made of the fact that the Israelis themselves had actually helped to set up and fund Hamas as part of ‘a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative’, in the words of a former Middle East CIA official. His and other evidence is in documents obtained from the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism. *

    * Richard Sale, ‘Hamas Tied to Israel’, United Press International, June 18, 2002. (Documents obtained from Institute for Counter Terrorism, Israel, analysed by Center for Strategic Studies.)'

    - John Pilger, Freedom Next Time, Chap. 2, The Last Taboo


    And here you can see Ron Paul say the same thing to Congress.
     
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    What's your point ?
     
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    Remember - Hamas Palestinians = ISIS
     
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    There are several. But first, this is a repeat of the old colonial tactic of divide and rule. And it is so typical of the deceitful and treacherous Israelis. Or don't you know anything about The Lavon Affair, the King David Hotel Bombing, the USS Liberty Incident?
     
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    Got a link that doesn't require you to register?
     
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    Good for you.
    Is one of them regards to Hamas Palestinians = ISIS ?
     
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    The link is the link.
     
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    RE: Hamas created with Israel's help
    SUBTOPIC:
    ⁜→ undertheradar, et al,

    (COMMENT)

    In any political-military (POLMIL) confrontation, no matter the level and magnitude of the conflict (but particularly when it involves irregular forces), the players are not always under a unified command. And that is very apparent in the history of the Arab-Jew face-offs in this regional conflict. None of the aforementioned incidents/events (supra), are relevant today. They make for very good mud to sling at the Israelis, but no nation is immune to the fall-out of stupid leadership. And Israel, like America has had its far share of stupid plays called by past leadership. Having said that, the State of Israel is the most developed, with the best economic and political outcomes of any nation in the Middle East and North African (MENA) region. And that is not because of any conflict outcome, but in-spite of the fact that for most of the nation's history, Israel faced danger on a daily basis from every point of the compass. And as demonstrated by actual behavioral patterns, the promises made by Arab Leaders are worthless.

    REMINDERs:
    • King David Hotel Bombing 77 years ago.
    • The Lavon Affair was 69 years ago.
    • The USS Liberty Incident was 56 years ago.

    REMEMBERs

    I purposely chose these as to not influenced by the 911 attacks; and did not consider the numerous airline hijackings. And I like to think they I am being fair when I say that (off the top of my head) these are all less than a half-century ago.

    Again, this is to point out that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP), do not by any stretch of the imagination, have clean and innocent hands. The Arab-Palestinians, of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, have a citizenry that suffers from the Ostrich Effect and their hands are as dirty and foul with blood as any other Arab terrorist supporting nation.

    Just My Perspective,
    Most Respectfully,
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    ISIS = Israeli Sinister Intelligence Service

    By way of deception - former Mossad agent Victor Ostrosvky on the modus operandi of Mossad.
     
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    It only lets you read the first few lines.
     
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    It's almost as if there has been this history of Palestinian violence.
     
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    Click on "Read More".
     
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    I did. Why do you think I asked, Got a link that doesn't require you to register?

    And when I did, this is what was presented to me:

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    Meh. It's free.
     
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    I'll ask one more time: Got a link that doesn't require you to register?
     
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    Nope. Not for that post.
     
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