Hamas fires rockets at Israel, Israel responds to Jihad terrorism.

Well it wasn't a lie... You did write that nonsense about the unwelcomed jews... What you want is some jews living as second rate citizen in muslim country instead.

And you didn't live in the ME for two decades, you are still living there most probably. You keep changing your tale Margot, and already have lost much of your credibility with the episcopalian, methodist, american "female" with a sometime catholic, sometime jewish brother...

You keep dancing even when the music stopped playing a while ago.

 

Yasser Arafat's birth was registered in Cairo because Cairo administered Gaza.

I didn't attend Saudi schools.. I attended American schools and Swiss schools.

No matter who was occupying or administering Palestine.. The Palestinians lived there and planted all those olive trees that the Israelis keep destrroying.

They have been in Palestine for 2500 years.

Who do you think the "gentiles" were??

Remember.. the Jews were just another Canaanite tribe.

 

Gentiles are christians...

There was no country called pallestine.

Arafat was an egyptian, just like the other pallies that came from egypt.

You seem to have a thing for olive trees... Me I prefer those from Sicilia and Grece.

Oh yes, now. They were just another tribes... Now you're turning into a relativist.

Well I don't see a problem with israel then. Each "tribe" deserves their own land, and the jewish tribe happens to own only a tiny part of it called Israel.

But the fact that they aren't second class citizen living under the boot of your master race, the arabs, seem to be an affront to your eyes.

 

Arafat's father was an Egyptian texile salesman.. His mother was palestinian from Jerusalem.

Gentiles existed in the Bible long before the birth of Christ.. Read your Torah.

Remember that Greeks and Romans, Scythians, Persians, Egyptians, Canaanites, Assyrians etc all had their contribution to the people of Palestine.

Sargon 2 settled four tribes of Arabs in Samaria in 721 BC.

You simply don't know your history... or your scripture.

 

Look who's talking...

Those civilisation are long gone and at the time of the pallestine protectorate. Just like the Mohawk and Cherokee indian were once powerful tribes in north america, they don't mean (*)(*)(*)(*) in modern society.

All that matters is who OWNED the land after the british seized it from the ottoman empire. Your pallies friend didn't own any of it. Saudi prince, turkish pasha and egyptians own those lands and they lost it when the ottoman empire was defeated.

And that lost was once more confirmed when the world, excluding your islamic friends, decided to give it to the jews for the creation of Israel. And they lost some more by starting wars they couldn't win.

Now you can spin Sargon 2 and antiquity all you want, but the facts remains:

The pallies lost, them's are the break. Move on...

 

Saudi Arabia didn't own any land in Palestine. Where do you come up with this crap?

 

Oh hell... are you that dense. Really! Saudi Arabia as you know it was under the ottoman empire rules until after WW1. I didn't say that the country Saudi Arabia, owned lands, I said wealthy saudi princes, as in rich man, owned lands. Do you know what sharecroppers are Margot? Those were what your pallies friends were. They don't owned the land they only worked on it.

I gave that out of the blue to demonstarte that there wasn't any such thing as a pallies landowner. And in any case, even if there was, their titles were linked to the ottoman empire which lost the war. The land was under and at the disposal of england to do as she saw fit with it.

There are consequences in losing wars...

 

No one was rich in Saudi Arabia and Ibn Saud began driving the Turks out long before the end of WW1.

You really don't know anything about ME history, do you?

Its all assumptions.

The Palestinians lived there which gave them a stronger claim than Polish Jews.

 

Again with your anti-semitic remark Margot. Your facade is really crumbling...

Of course there were rich people in the region. There are always some who profit in an empire.

We know that in your fantasy version of Saudi paradise, nothing evil or wrong can happened, but this is the real world we're talking about.

Unlike you, we don't need to invent some alternate story for ourselves (and keep changing it as you do).

As for the Polish Jews. The world gave them that land. After all, by that time it belonged to the british anyway. There are consequences to losing a war.

 

Moon is a huge propaganda machine. Ive over time decided to consider every post he makes to be completely void of merit simply because he blindly supports Hamas and is anti Israel regardless of the discussion. he has no objectivity. however, in his defense, he was only pointing out that this incident has no direct link to Hamas, not that they never fire them. try to respect those that disagree with you, you'll enjoy the debate much more.

 

LOLOLOL.. There were no wealthy Saudi Princes.....

No body owned any land.. and certainly the European Jews didn't own it.

There is no word "gentile" in the Hebrew Bible.. nor in the Hebrew language.

The word in the old texts is translated Goy or Goyim meaning nation.

So there were all these other people living in Palestine who were NOT Jews or Israelites or Hebrews.

 

Like I said, you're crumbling. You're not even coherent anymore.

People who lived and administred the region on behalf of the Ottoman empire, were wealthy and did have power.

So did some egyptians and turks...

You're now backpedaling and trying to cover your track by bringing the torah and bible in play now. We're in the 21st century Margot... We work with the modern meaning of words now. Gentiles is used now to represent the christians. If you were one, and your not so you can stop with that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) make belief story of yours, you would know that.

After WW1 england owned the land. They, and the rest of the world, chose to gave it to the european jews. Though luck for those arab squatters but like I said, there are consequence in starting wars you can't win.

 

Gentiles were just others... non Jews... and called by the Jews.. a nation.

You have a real opportunity for peace and prosperity....

England had no right to give the land away, but they were so disgusted with the Zionists and just wanted to get out of the bloody quagmire.

 

They had every right. They seized it as reparation for the war that the ottoman empire lost.

You seem to have a problem understanding that when you lose a war, you don't get to keep your toys. Ask every loser in history.

BTW england abstained from the vote, but they still gave the land.

 

WHO fought the Ottomans and expelled them?

It was the Brits and the Arabs.. not European Jews.

The problem is not that the European refugees sought sanctuary in Palestine.. It was their treachery after they arrived.

Ingratitude is a hallmark.. Look at their conduct towards the US over the past 60 years?????

 

This has been fascinating, watching Nosferax take such a beating.

Every time she reveals a bit of history Nosferax just pretends it doesnt matter and accuses her of either 'changing the story' or being an anti semite.

Gentiles are christians? Palestine was owned by Saudi princes that lost it in a war?

The British seized palestine as a war reparation?

Then we have this stuff about losing a war means to somehow have to lose territory? Do the Polish owe the Russians their land for their takeover by the USSR? Is chechnya Russia no matter what the chechnyans think? Tibet is china no matter what the Tibetans think?


Please Nosferax, give up acting like your winning here. Youre being taken to school....

 

And this changes anything in the end. Just like the Iroquois and the Hurons fought on the side of the british and french, they still didn't get the lands in the end.

The land became england property after the defeat of the ottoman empire. There are consequences when you start and lose a war.

The world voted and the majority gave the land to the jews for the creation of Israel. The End.

Moral of the story: Don't start wars you can't win...

 

LOLOLOL.. It has been pretty comical.. I wonder about the quality of education.. Where does this stuff come from?

 

LOL, and here come the sock puppet fan club...

Of course you pretend that I'm losing, since you and your appologist fellow can't even get your story straight.

And yes, the winner decides what is what. Only silly juvenile appologist thinks otherwise.

But it make you sad to see someone calling Margot out for being such a taqqiya spouting saudi.

 

From history books... You know the real one, not your make belief one.

Are you going to log on another account now... or call on another friend to come and rescue you?

 

So you have learned a buzzword.. Taqqiya.. Its a shia concept.. like Abraham lying to Pharoah about the nature of his relationship with Sarah.

I don't practice it.. because I happen to be a Christian.

No amount of lies will right the wrongs of the Zionists, but you can still save your country and prosper.

 

Given your polite non bigoted responses I will converse further with you rather than embarrasing Americans like the 'Reverend MoFo', lets leave the children to their games.

The purpose of the blockade is to put the wider peace process in formaldehyde as part of ongoing Israeli internal politics. Its not to do with security. Which its been proven Israel can achieive without it - please ask for details.

This is done by preventing gazans access to their territory, knowing full well that such afronts will prompt rocket responses, thus promoting the wider idea inside israel that palestinians cannot be partners in peace and therefore no compromises on territory in the west bank or jerusalem are feasible. These latter areas are the jewels in thee crown for Israel as gaza could never be.

Now....can you see the point or would you like to dismiss it?

 

You're no christian... This has been demonstrated in many other threads. You keep reinventing yourself.

My country is quite prosperous. I never pretended to be anything else than a french canadian, contrary to you who feels the need to change your story every other post.

But I like Israel and I love jews. At least they contribute to society as whole while your muslim friend prefer to strap bombs to kids.

 

Lol. go on, tell us. Which history books have you been reading?

While youre at it. Explain to us, what is your response if , lets say, some super powerful evil muslim horde takes over your own Canada, will your response be to tell your felloe french canadians that canada is now muslim territory?

What do you think their response will be? Lemme guess, you wont answer to a sock puppet fan club of a taqqiya spouting saudi right?....

 

Wow, you like margot (if you're not just a sock puppet) are having a really bad day. Both of you are barelly coherent in your rant anymore...